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Comment by Rhubarb on February 23, 2014 at 12:58pm

Ugh. The uneducated dumbing down the kids. sigh... I don't always agree with P&T but the separation of Church & State is sacrosanct to me.

Comment by Pale Horse on March 11, 2014 at 9:10pm

Separation of church and state isn't even in the Constitution. It says the government can't establish a religion. 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

That was established to avoid a Church of England scenario.

Comment by Steve Dallas on March 11, 2014 at 9:35pm

I used to ride dinosaurs to school

Comment by Michael B. on March 12, 2014 at 2:00am

Posting a Preacher's comment as evidence against evolution? Genius! It's not like he's financially invested in people throwing money his way if they'd rather believe in fairies and unicorns!

Though, you can't expect much more from people who don't understand even micro-evolution to the degree that they make asinine statements like "But, but, but MACRO evolution...."

Uh, macro evolution is summed up as thus; enough genetic variation occurring for development of a different species; defined as two organisms that cannot produce viable, reproductive offspring.

Think lines that can produce sterile hybrids; wholphins, tigons, and ligers, oh my!

Comment by Steve Dallas on March 12, 2014 at 10:26am

Preacher - manipulate the truth with misdirection, slight of hand, and so forth to have the audience believe that the impossible is happening.

 

Magician - Wears a top hat

 

Comment by Michael B. on March 14, 2014 at 12:19am

Yes - when somebody has a conflict of interest with any situation, their opinion is and always will be suspect.

Secondly, let me slow it down for you thusly; there is NO difference between micro and macro evolution given a long enough scale of time. This is what I was explaining.

Reproductive isolation of a population over time allows enough genetic shift to create a different species.

The examples of big cat hybrids largely just illustrates how narrow that divide is. It's not a statement of two species mating and producing a third. It's about two species that are so narrowly divided genetically, that they can produce offspring; albeit sterile offspring.

The advances in DNA technology over the past hundred years only SUPPORTS evolution - and furthermore has lead to corrections in taxonomy that were previously made purely on observational data.

Though, were you not choosing to be willfully ignorant of the world around you because it is a threat to your worldview... you would know all this.

I actually suspect that you DO know that, but hope that those you discourse with do not, so that you can derail the conversation with such asinine threads as the micro/macro evolution dribble.

Comment by Liam Strain on March 16, 2014 at 10:30pm

Umm.. wow. Garrett - please take the defense of YE creationism to the Great Debate. As it is, you're just rambling, and this is not the appropriate place for it. You've already made your feelings about the video known. Further debate happens elsewhere.

Comment by Steve Dallas on March 17, 2014 at 7:45am

Damn Garrett, no wonder you think the bible is perfect while misunderstanding evolution so much. Your reading skills suck. I made fun of preachers and magicians, I didn't say a damn thing about your religion or any specific religion at that.  I "fought" you with a lame joke on two professions that manipulate people with misdirection.

Comment by Sir on March 17, 2014 at 8:01am

Well, this isn't the main forum (or any forum at all), but still... we have a perfectly serviceable thread on this very topic on TGD.  It'd be great if this went there.  It'd be even better if it went to /dev/null, but...

Comment by John White on April 5, 2014 at 2:14pm

Will, I tried that and got attacked for voicing my belief. This is a better spot for it.

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