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Liam S. said… its combination of moral relativism and the division of the world between strong and weak, Western and non-Western, and rich and poor, rather than between good and evil.
Sometimes there is good versus evil, and sometimes some people try to paint things which are not, with those brushes. The challenge is knowing the difference, it is not always obvious.
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Will Gentile said… You should really blow out that map a bit, Liam.
Try to find Israel on that map. It is so small it is hard to see. And then look around at the Arab/Muslim states that surround her.
On Friday, on its front page, the Times featured two three-column wide photos. The top one was of Gaza Muslim mourners alongside the dead body of al-Jabari. The photo below was of Israeli Jews mourning alongside the dead body of Mira Scharf, a 27-year-old mother of three.
What possible reason could there be for the New York Times to give identical space to these two pictures? One of the dead, after all, was a murderer, and the other was one of his victims.
The most plausible reason is that the Times wanted to depict through pictures a sort of moral equivalence: Look, sophisticated Times readers, virtually identical scenes of death and mourning on both sides of the conflict. How tragic.
If one had no idea what had triggered this war, one would read and see the Times coverage and conclude that two sides killing each other were both equally at fault.
This is the mainstream (i.e., liberal) media's approach. The Los Angeles Times headline on the same day was: "Israel and Gaza veering down familiar, bitter path,"
Same presentation: two scorpions fighting in a bottle.
Examples are endless. Here is one more:
In 2002, there was widespread Nigerian Muslim opposition to the Miss World pageant scheduled to take place that year in Nigeria. Defending the pageant, a Nigerian female reporter wrote a column in which she said that not only were the contestants not "whores," as alleged by the Muslim protestors, but they were such fine women that "Muhammad would probably have taken one of the contestants for a wife."
That one sentence led to Muslim rioting, the beating and killing of Christians, the burning of churches and the razing of her newspaper's offices.
How did the New York Times report the events?
"Fiery Zealotry Leaves Nigeria in Ashes Again."
No group is identified as responsible. "Fiery zealotry," not Muslim violence, was responsible.
The article then begins: "The beauty queens are gone now, chased from Nigeria by the chaos in Kaduna."
Again, Muslim rioters weren't responsible for chasing the beauty queens out of Nigeria; it was "chaos."
The article concludes that what happened in Kaduna was another example of Africa's "difficulty in reconciling people who worship separately." In other words, Christians and Muslims were equally guilty.
As the flagship news source of the left, the New York Times reveals the great moral failing inherent to leftism -- its combination of moral relativism and the division of the world between strong and weak, Western and non-Western, and rich and poor, rather than between good and evil.
Liam S. said… "Makes a good deterrent."
Or ferments resentment and encourages desperate terrorist acts, rather than diplomacy and peace.
JonEdanger said… Absent the "Iron Dome" Israeli losses would certainly be higher.
That said, I'm ok with the ratio. "Kill one of mine and I kill a thousand of yours" is my preferred ratio and makes a good deterrent.
Liam S. said… How has the New York Times reported this?
3 Israelis killed, 120 Palestinians Dead. They reported it accurately. No doubt, Hamas is a terrorist organization, but Israel's policies towards Palestine over the decades (official and unofficial) have been far from innocent. I do not support Hamas, but I do not condone Israel's actions either. Witness the current land balance.

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