"Patrick,  I see it has been a while since you posted and replied.  Your pros are sort of correct and your con is completely wrong.  But as you said in a later post you were interested in what I call the 'hollywood" ninjer…"

""a bowler Which is just the english name for a derbie" Ouch! Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I can't let that slur pass (hehe). You have it the other way around, old chap. A Bowler is not the English name for a Derby. The…"

"slightly off-topic, perhaps, but I'll risk chiming in... I just recently picked up a velour fur-blend Bailey at their Outlet store in a good solid brown that has a similar "in-between-ness" about it. The shape is pretty much homburg…"

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"too true shelby... it all comes down to what ya want to know ...i will tell ya if you want to learn actual "Traditional ninja" weapons and scroll type knowledge yer going to wait at least 10 years in my experience with 3 Taijutsu dojos"

"If you want the Taijitsu experience for learning principles and whatnot it might be a good idea, as Eric said. Prior to my MMA training I trained in Kuk Sool Won. It wasn't as geared towards practical fighting (point sparring, not as much…"

"It is merely just that I'm interested in the their stealth techniques and their weapons work. I do SCA fencing so I could probably get the "sword expierience" there. *shrugh* though we'll see"

"...with Taijutsu the way it is taught and the principles in mind set allow for the most diverse and efficient use of the body in a given situation to come out on top. if nothing else take it just to learn to a new way of thinking and doing things."

"Dear god...you have a gym that teaches a diverse array of striking and grappling arts. Unless it is terrible for some unlisted reason stay with it. Taijitsu is not a great idea for you, I can't comment on the stealth techniques, but as a…"

"this would definitely make Hanbo grappling fun"

"I may have some research to do. I'm a former Wiccan/Pagan so I know something abour the perverse nature of taking something from the church and turning it into something disgusting. Whether or not Masonry does this...I'm unsure. And…"

"hey Patrick i had the same ideas about Taijutsu when i started but ive stayed with it for 8+ years. ive done thai boxing and TKD and wing chun (sweet as well) and the mind set that develops as a result of Taijutsu training with a good teacher is…"

"I'd like to know the reasoning and the "why" fremansonry is not compatable with the Church. I've heard that their 'rituals' were originally intended to be made as a sardonic mocking of the churches own rites. I've…"

"I fail to see the point in your first paragraph. I'm not a Christian and I don't believe in your version of God, so whatever argument you're making is meaningless to me. I wouldn't say that anyone "owns" anyone else,…"

"One big misconception is that we hate science, art, culture and holistic methods of thought. Always forgetting that it has been catholics who have given some of the greatest contributions to culture. It was a Catholic Monsignor, I beleive, who first…"