"Do you mind expanding a bit what you are looking for with "sound moral character"? I am with you that we are stupid to look for the god-like perfection of a candidate, but then what leaves us with then the far extremes or bland…"

"Unfortunately that is probably going to be a difficult and long process. Apparently nobody tells the president anything. His desires are not expressed to those lower down the chain except for his own special brand of transparency. This special form…"

"But if the GOP can do something like you claim, why must they continually wait for something else? Why can't they now?"

"I agree Will- I think that if you're honestly seeking manhood, you eventually see how fallible you are, how weak you are, how little control you really have, and that the only solution is the Grace of God.  I get discouraged when I see the…"

"Seems to me the pinnacle of good manhood, good humanity, good Jewishness, good 1st-Century person, etc., etc., is Jesus Christ:  any group he was in, he was the most virtuous. So the best version of secular manhood would be Christlike.…"

"And that is my ever living point. I want to know about every hand along the way. When you pointed out you didn't know who Lerner was, nor where in the structure she was, it sounded to me like the only responsiblity you wanted to point to was…"