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Started this discussion. Last reply by Raj Dec 2, 2009. 6 Replies

How are you all? I guess I should introduce myself even though I've been talking to a few of you already in The Great Debate.I'm a 28-year-old husband (to Elaine) and father (to Joe) currently living…Continue

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Programming, photography, writing.

Above all, my family.
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Lots of science fiction and fantasy and horror. Read most everything by Stephen King.
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The Godfather, Night of the Living Dead, The Fifth Element and, (so help me) The Princess Bride are all you need to get through life.
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Pretty much anything.
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I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it’s much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong.

-- Richard Feynman

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At 4:55pm on May 28, 2011, Curt Bolding said…

I dont' have to convince anyone of anything; I don't care what any of you think any more than you care what I think.  I provided a book to examine, but no one was willing to do it.  I'm not going to do others' work for them and I'm not going to stand for people just sitting on their asses pulling apart everything I say without examining my source material.  That's not skeptical, that's lazy. 

 

If somebody wants to examine my source, then I might be willing to discuss it again.  Otherwise, please do not contact me again, sir. 

At 12:02pm on May 28, 2011, Curt Bolding said…

Well, the problem, as I see it, is that one comes into your group with certain beliefs and then the group exists to tear down those beliefs.  I've had this experience in other skeptics' groups, elsewhere on the web:  the skeptics don't present their own beliefs, they just tear down the other man's.  They don't present their own beliefs, because they often don't have any other than existing to tear down the other man's.  I've since spoken to another fellow on AoM who had the same experience in your group.  He got ganged up on; nobody listened to him beyond trying to find an argument with anything he said, so he finally left.  I'm sure you'll agree that at some point it becomes an exercise in futility when it ends up being you against everyone else and the group's goal is only to denigrate your beliefs. 

 

As with the UFO discussion, I couldn't get anyone to even consider one fact, because their minds were already made up. Their "research" on the subject only consisted of leaving this site long enough to go somewhere else and find an argument to bring back.  That was obvious from what they said in their posts, because they missed certain critical facts germaine to the case in question that I knew about because I had researched the matter with an open mind.  I cited a book used in my research by a man who is well respected in the field of Ufology, and they wouldn't even consider what he had to say, but they did find time to go look up other arguments, because, as I say, their minds were already made up and they weren't willing to consider other viewpoints, just tear them down. 

 

Anyway, I'm considering coming back with a subject on which I'm more skeptical myself, like religion.

At 10:47pm on May 27, 2011, Curt Bolding said…
You're welcome.  I always do what I see the Manly thing to be, even if it involves eating some humble pie.  As I said earlier, I had been trying to back out the whole thing gracefully for some time, but it just wasn't happening.
At 10:41pm on May 27, 2011, Curt Bolding said…
Mr. Love-- I have gone back through the Skeptics' group and removed all of my posts from the comments column.  My only intention was to have interesting conversation, but instead I only seemed to succeed in antagonizing everyone.  I presented a number of facts but the response was that nobody believed them no matter what I said.  Therefore, I thought it best to just take everything out, because it was all getting out of hand, and my attitude was I was just going to continue to tell you all off ad infinitum.  I decided that this was unhealthy for me and I had nothing to prove to anyone anyway.  We all have to pick and choose what we believe.  At any rate, the manly thing was to tell you of my decision and the reasons for it, and I hope I did not cause too much trouble.
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At 8:38pm on December 1, 2009, Max Riffner said…
Thanks for the welcome!
At 7:25pm on December 1, 2009, Liam Strain said…
Welcome to AOM Kenneth. I'm enjoying your participation in the Great Debate.
At 10:59pm on November 30, 2009, Michael J. Austin said…
You're welcome sir :)
At 1:07pm on November 30, 2009, Herb Munson said…
Hi there Kenneth. Welcome to AoM. Also, I would like to invite you to take a look at one of the most active groups here. It's my new group called The Great Debate. It's the one with the colorful galaxy picture. In any case, good to have you here and welcome aboard.
At 7:22am on November 30, 2009, Michael J. Austin said…
Hello and welcome to the site Kenneth !!!!
 
 
 

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