"I don't have a problem as such, I am merely observing. and trying to explain some of the history. In saying I have a problem you start off by ignoring everything I have to say, and thus your response is utterly off topic. In…"
"Umm...quietly sitting in a pew reading along with the Liturgy isn't exactly the sort of active lay participation most bishops, at least US bishops, seem to have had in mind.
Anyway, what exactly is your problem with a change that happened half…"
"The participation movement began earlier, prior to Vatican two, with the Pray the Mass movement, which advocated actively praying the Mass with the priest through the use of missals. It was enshrined in V II with a phrase that got…"
"Hate to get into a yes, no, etc., exchange, but, to quote a book title, "H***, I was There!" A major reason given at the time (the 1960s), for the then new post-Vatican II Liturgy was get the laity more involved in the celebration of…"
"My apologies, Native Son, I had thought your comment was aimed at me.
Having said that, I disagree that the purpose of the new liturgy was to get people more involved in their faith, beyond confession and communion. I have read the…"
"I'm not sure who Sean was replying to in his comment. I do have to comment on Stephanus's complaint about the "structure" of the New Liturgy. Other than following a three year cycle of Readings, the New Liturgy is nigh unto…"
"OK. You want Latin, there's a parish nearby that celebrates the Tridentine Rite. Somehow, I don't think God cares what language you worship in.
For that matter, part of the Latin Liturgy is actually said in Greek..."
"I think the argument can go both ways. Latin is not entirely without its uses. On the one hand, it can be a unifying experience. In Toronto, where I am from, Mass is said in more than thirty languages every Sunday. Many…"
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"I'm not a vegetarian, but have gone camping with a few. Some things we've eaten:
Split pea soup
Madras lentil soup (Trader Joe's, Costco, Amazon)
Mac & cheese (something more upscale than Kraft, spice it…"