"I have always believed Christianity promotes and emphasizes the best aspects of being a Man...bravery, compassion, strength, insight, and others. You can be a deeply Christian man and be a role model of maleness. A problem in the world today is that…"
"I actually DO read a lot of what is offered on the site! Although a lot of it may not apply to me, I find enough interesting items to make the site really worthwhile! I guess if nothing else, AofM has information about being a man you won't…"
"I looked-up and re-read Brett's "Man before Gentleman" article ... and the following passage seemed to be appropriate to this conversation ...
He goes on to say that the cutesy little 'gentleman' dandies that don't…"
"He even used a weapon. Picture the scene for a minute. He was overturning tables and swinging a handcrafted whip at people and animals to drive them away. Not clear whether the whip struck anyone. Seems plausible. …"
"Whoever is giving you a choice pretend your pastor is the model of manhood or "get out", is, frankly, a clown. I've never heard anybody in the church give such an absurd and anti-Biblical ultimatum. There's nothing in…"
"I wanted to add to this discussion by quoting from David Murrow:
“I’m going to say something you’ll never hear in church. You can fly into a rage and still be a faithful Christian. You can hurt other people’s feelings. You do…"
As I said in this post, I had a reason for my curiosity. Just wondering what your thoughts are on the followup question in my other post "How can we balance true manliness with the "Godly Man" in the church?""
"Hey Michael! I love it! “John Wayne with a Bible!” Your image sums up what I have been trying to visualize. Personally, I borrowed a quotation from somewhere on the definition of a ‘Gentleman.’ And I reworded it to convey the…"
"I agree Mark, up to a point. ‘Temperamental’, ‘short-tempered’, etc. need not refer to someone who is ‘out of control’ and certainly not Jesus as we read in the gospels. We have to be very careful of our culture…"
"It wd be hard to make an effective survey of this, because of the difficulty of objectively measuring who shows backbone and who's a tru Xian. But we can certainly address the q of whether its possible for a man of God to have a…"
"When it came to the Pharisees and their hypocrisy, Jesus was certainly surly and tempermental - to the point of sarcasm and verbal assaults. Was he that way all the time? Certainly not! Also, Jesus was short-tempered at times with his…"
Let me be clear. I did not say that as inferring "ALL pastors...." Far from it. I said, "...a COUPLE of our staff pastors..." So what did I mean by "wimpy"?
One of them definitely has a "cold fish"…"
"Hey there Dale, I don't try to balance being male with being a model for the Church,(which ever Church you mean). It's not really possible. Men who say that they're true Christians usually are covering up a few things or if…"
"The Ephesians passage you bring up does indicate we are in conflict - yes. And Paul uses armor imagery (like he uses other imagery in other places - imperial, athletic, agricultural, parental, etc.) to help us understand how to navigate that…"
"And slightly tangential, but I'd have to say that if an individual has physical relations with someone they barely know and trust to the point they have to have a contract signed affirming consent, then if they are falsely accused of rape this…"
"Fact is fact. The actresses consented, by any definition of the term. You're suggesting legal technicalities to overturn that ... but that doesn't change the fact. She was mentally capable. She knew what her…"
"Down the rabbit hole we go.
Fact is fact. The actresses consented, by any definition of the term. You're suggesting legal technicalities to overturn that ... but that doesn't change the fact. She was mentally…"
"Well in the post above, you equated subjective legal definitions such as "grown up" which has varied greatly historically and legally with "objective reality", so you seem to be more confused on the subject matter than I…"
"Not to mention, what you're doing is equating subjective legal definitions such as that of 'grown up' with objective reality, which is inconsistent as that would mean that the government has some 'quasi-divine' authority to…"