"I do not think that "always rebel against authority - no matter who, what they ask of you, or their power over you" is a good policy.
It may actually be that obeying IS the best way. Doing it your way is irrelevant if it does…"
"I would want to know all I could about this God before I made any decision on whether or not to rebel against it/him/her.
If in FACT God existed and if in FACT he would send me to hell forever, for whatever reason, good or evil, I would avoid…"
"the christian appologists i've read have countered the "god doesn't need worship" line by saying of course he doesn't; we do. i don't buy that, though it is neat to feel something larger than oneself.
"no you misunderstand my point. I don't mean deny or reject the existence of god as in deny the fact that, he is. I mean to say if a god exists fine accept that but reject his authority over (sorry I didn't make that clear) us even if its…"
"I guess my point is two fold.
1. If it is demonstrated that there actually is a god, rejecting him outright, without knowing what, if anything he wants from us, is foolish. For one, he could want you to reject him. Hitchens was talking about living…"
"through knowing a perfect being it is possible to use its example as a measuring stick to judge ones self, I'll grant that. However, i'm sure you'll agree that doesn't make one worth of worship.
I don't know who said it but…"
""without specific instances of what god and what rules we would be rebelling against, such advice is meaningless. "
My point is it doesn't matter what god or what rules existed, having big brother always there is the problem. As…"
"“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If…"
"The assumption that "doing things on your own" or rebelling as learning mechanism, as the only path to knowledge, growth, manliness, doesn't seem that well supported to me. It is one path, certainly... but not the only one, and not…"
Greetings all, I have an thought (not original) that has been running around my head for a while. It involves the proper actions we (as humans) should take if in fact some deity does exist. If there is a god I propose that we, as thinking creatures with the desire to live our own lives, should reject that god. That is to say, if a god exists, we should say "thanks but no thanks". Despite how wonderful and benevolent or evil and capricious, we should tell this god we do not want nor require its…See More
"Perhaps you don't recall the 4 years of painstakingly trying to get Benghazi investigated, or the many many months for her email server, which wouldn't have even seen the light of day but for an oopsie. Investigations take time. I've…"
"Regarding #4What we want is an investigation not just of Flynn, but of the entire situation, so we can find out the extent of, and type of problem we are dealing with here. Right now, we don't know what we don't know. Much less what the…"
"Ok a couple points which I find salient.
1) If sanctions were mentioned, but not in a substantive manner. (IE: the word and concept came up, but were not negotiated or expounded upon) Thus He could be incorrect about the actual reference in that he…"
"Iron sharpens iron." A place for men to impact each other by debate and exchange of ideas. This is a group where no ideas are off limits. If your motto is, "I never talk about politics or religion," this group is probably not for you. A "gym" for thinkers.See More
""Deep State rebellion" seems to be a phrase gaining currency in far-right/conspiracy-theorist circles as a way to blame the established bureaucracy for the poor management and lack of leadership from the White House."