"I do not think that "always rebel against authority - no matter who, what they ask of you, or their power over you" is a good policy.
It may actually be that obeying IS the best way. Doing it your way is irrelevant if it does…"
"I would want to know all I could about this God before I made any decision on whether or not to rebel against it/him/her.
If in FACT God existed and if in FACT he would send me to hell forever, for whatever reason, good or evil, I would avoid…"
"the christian appologists i've read have countered the "god doesn't need worship" line by saying of course he doesn't; we do. i don't buy that, though it is neat to feel something larger than oneself.
"no you misunderstand my point. I don't mean deny or reject the existence of god as in deny the fact that, he is. I mean to say if a god exists fine accept that but reject his authority over (sorry I didn't make that clear) us even if its…"
"I guess my point is two fold.
1. If it is demonstrated that there actually is a god, rejecting him outright, without knowing what, if anything he wants from us, is foolish. For one, he could want you to reject him. Hitchens was talking about living…"
"through knowing a perfect being it is possible to use its example as a measuring stick to judge ones self, I'll grant that. However, i'm sure you'll agree that doesn't make one worth of worship.
I don't know who said it but…"
""without specific instances of what god and what rules we would be rebelling against, such advice is meaningless. "
My point is it doesn't matter what god or what rules existed, having big brother always there is the problem. As…"
"“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If…"
"The assumption that "doing things on your own" or rebelling as learning mechanism, as the only path to knowledge, growth, manliness, doesn't seem that well supported to me. It is one path, certainly... but not the only one, and not…"
Greetings all, I have an thought (not original) that has been running around my head for a while. It involves the proper actions we (as humans) should take if in fact some deity does exist. If there is a god I propose that we, as thinking creatures with the desire to live our own lives, should reject that god. That is to say, if a god exists, we should say "thanks but no thanks". Despite how wonderful and benevolent or evil and capricious, we should tell this god we do not want nor require its…See More
"Titus, I couldn't reply directly to you on the earlier sub-thread, so I'm putting it here...
I think it was Einstein who said something like: The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Maybe this inverse correlation of…"
"Another thing you need to look at, is the laws where you live. For instance, in the city adjacent to mine, the animal shelter always has Pit Bull puppies available, They are typically at the shelter because they were seized by law…"
"Those are good points, Liam. You've knocked me off my stated position a bit... It brings to mind the black sit-ins of restaurants in the 60's. Is their a difference in not serving them food, and not serving gays cakes?