"As for holding hands, there is no prescribed posture for the hands during the Our Father and that, so far at least, neither the Holy See nor the U.S. bishops' conference has officially addressed it.
The bow, not genuflect) should happen…"
"My answer was on topic, as I was trying to give some background to the question.: We are given instructions on what we are to do during the Mass, and it is contained in what is known as the GIRM. The GIRM says nothing about holding hands…"
"As I've averred numerous times, each parish, each diocese, and each religious order (including priests within the individual orders) can and do differ in the details in how they celebrate the Mass.
If anyone doesn't want to hold hands…"
"At my parish we are not instructed to do so, but they do. I prefer not to hold hands of strangers personally.
At my wife's parish they don't do it at all. In fact my wife had never heard anything about holding hands during the…"
"Regular Joe and Sean, I think you've gone a bit off topic. OP question was about the parishioners who have their back hair up about holding hands during the Our Father, not the folks praying using the orans posture.
Nobody has come…"
"This goes to what the GIRM (General Instruction on the Roman Missal) says. The Roman Missal is the words that are said at Mass. The General Instruction is what is to be done during the Mass. It tells us when to stand, when to…"
"I commented on the folks who still haven't quite accepted changes in ritual that have taken place over the past half-century, or are so reliant upon "authority" that they are uncomfortable with anything that isn't spelled out in…"
"Oh boy. Here we go with folks being overly worried about how the ritual of saying one prayer during Mass. Every parish I've been in for the last 25-30 odd years has held hands during the Our Father. The last time I actively…"
I have heard some comment about how it's wrong for parishioners to hold hands during the Our Father during Mass. Some do it at my Parrish (well actually most) and I don't see how there could be something wrong with it. Of course one doesn't have to at my Parish and no one takes offense if one doesn't. I'm just interested in why some think it's wrong.I have another question. When going up for communion one is suppose to bow their head (or genuflect) before taking the Host or the Cup. I've seen…See More
"I have three children four and under. I never get sit through a full Mass. Children misbehaving is not what I thought the original poster was talking about. I thought it was older people who should know better."
"Have you tried to go the Priest? I know that if this was going on at the Church that I attend our Priest would say something during the sermon. If that isn't an option, maybe you could try a more traditional church to go to. I have rarely seen…"
"Long before I was Catholic, I saw that the local Catholic church had a cry room. I thought it was very sweet that they had a room specially for those who were overcome by the beauty of the service or the sweetness of the Spirit! :o"
"Speaking of crying babies during Mass...In my youth, I was in a parish that had a combination of a church with excellent acoustics, a great PA system, and a Monsignor who didn't so much say the Mass as he BOOMED IT OUT! He was completely…"
"You're implying there was some sort of order and decency to the teeming masses enswarming him. There was no such thing. He put up with pressing throngs and masses demanding lunch and rotters accosting him and whores being thrown at him, hell…"
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"This is your full quote:
For a local example of how racist attitudes drove the Leave vote, AOM's own Joker/Chistoso is absolutely jumping for joy that the Leave side prevailed.
There is a vast difference in implications from what you wrote…"
""there are actually official campaign groups for the referendum, and Nigel Farage was in fact the founding member of one of them, Grassroots Out. This would seem to make him, in fact, an official Leave leader."
Maybe the next time…"
"You said "racist attitudes drove Leave". It seems you have a different idea of what the "essence" of a movement is than everyone else. And now you're insulting us for your inability to communicate your thoughts clearly. Good…"
"Okay - I keep saying this but apparently it's not getting through and it's a bit frustrating: I am not claiming that Leave is, at its essence, racist. If this continues to be misunderstood, I have vastly overestimated the literacy of some…"
"According to the article you posted, Farange created his own splinter movement. He was not part of the official Leave leadership. Therefore you cannot claim that Leave is a racist movement simply based on Farange's involvement."
"You didn't provide any evidence to neutralize -- specific or otherwise. You repeated the same broad claim several times.
If you're calling my post praeteritio, you didn't understand it. That's used to say something is…"