For men who realize that nothing is manlier than using real man-power for transportation: get on a bicycle!
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Started by Jamie Fellrath. Last reply by Regular Joe Aug 25, 2015.
Started by Native Son Feb 17, 2015.
Started by Specs. Last reply by Rick Shelton Oct 22, 2014.
NA: Up here it's governed at the provincial level. In my province, lights and reflectors are only required if you ride 30 minutes (before sunset and beyond) and up to 30 minutes after sunrise. The rest of the time they are not required. I see your point but I can also see it the other way, too. The difference between a road bike and a racing bike is often very slim. And don't fuck tons of people ride mountain bikes and track bikes and BMX bikes on the streets? If I buy a race car for road use, or a monster truck for off-road use, or a funny car for drag racing (etc.), it's my responsibility (not the manufacturer's or the seller's) to make it street legal if I intend to drive it in the street. Same same for bikes. You want to drive a track bike on the road? Knock yourself out. But it's on you to put brakes on it otherwise you'll get fined if you get caught. You want to drive a mountain bike on the highway? Fine but it's on you to put some lights and reflectors on it otherwise you'll get fined if you get caught. IMO that should be the approach for lights and reflectors. They're not mandatory for daytime use so they shouldn't be mandatory at the point of sale. But, if you ride in the dark, it's on you to make it street legal or risk a fine.
RJ: Took me a bit to edit this down. The head ache is that below your southern border, , there's a federal DOT requirement that all street bicycles are equipped with a certain number and color of reflectors. So the bike shop default is put the reflectors on the bike. Thus my the question was why are bike shops allowed to deliver road vehicles lacking mandated safety equipment, when nobody else can do so for any other road vehicle. The racing & BMX bikes are exceptions, as they are not sold for street use. I don't know the state of the laws in the various Canadian provinces or most US states. I do know that where I live the Vehicle Code has quite specific equipment rules for bicycles. The requirement for a headlamp and a red rear reflector on a bike at night has been in the state Vehicle code for over a century.
NS: Because the bike shops also sell bikes that will be used exclusively on tracks, or for road races, or for BMX dirt trails, or on mountains, etc. Bike shops don't assume by default that a bike will be used on the road or at night so, rather than increase the cost by adding on reflectors, tape, bells, horns, lights (etc.) by default, they generally leave the bikes bare and let the consumers do what they need to do. Mass retailers, however, like Walmart and (up here) Canadian tire will usually add reflectors to all the bikes they sell as a precaution.
Recently been seeing an uptick in the number of overly optimistic night time bike riders. No lights, no reflectors, dark clothing, usually no helmet. Part of what I'm trying to figure out is that since nearly everything else for use on public streets has to be legally equipped when delivered to the consumer, how come bike dealers are getting a pass? Especially since the personal injury lawyers down here jump at the chance to sue anybody else for any possible injury.
Can you guys recommend reliable bike parts mail order websites? Thanks!
I had a Frejus Track bike which I made into a 5 speed and raced the Cross Fla Tour.
Yeah my older cycling buddy used to ride a track bike outdoors in Cleveland in the sixties. He told about another guys dad who also rode a fixed gear in the fifties.
We used to ride a fixed gear in the spring for training. Have a pic of another guys dad who was riding a fixed gear in 1937.
It actually rained again in the SF Bay Area. And I quickly got nostalgic for the coaster brake on the Schwinn I had as a youngster.
We have that sub-community too, Native Son. But they're mostly bike messengers, bike polo players (who are mostly bike messengers) and hipsters. But even the hipsters are mostly switching to single speed (freewheel) with at least one brake lever and/or coaster brakes because many of them have realized that they can get the same look as a fixie without the actual physical challenge of driving a fixie. Then there's an even small sub-set of fixie riders. Get this . . . THEY'RE ACTUAL CYCLING ATHLETES who competitively ride track bikes in velodromes and who also ride fixies (usually with brakes for legal compliance) on the roads for training purposes. HOW FUCKING NOVEL, EH? I get a laugh when people find out that fixies were an actual thing long before hipsters appropriated them, and that they're a legitimate wing of athletic / competitive cycling. ;)
Regular Joe, it appears the bicycling community in Ottawa is a bit different from the bicycling community in the San Francisco, CA area. Down here, we have a noticeable subset of cyclists who think riding only something with a fixed, i.e., no free-wheeling, rear wheel and no brakes is the only thing worth riding. The "fixie looking" bike with a cruiser-style one speed rear axle (and no coaster brake) is literally a brand new phenomenon in my area.
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