I wrote this in relation to the UK, but seeing as it's an issue in the US too you can all still comment and give your opinions.
Give your opinions on the issue and on the document itself. Please make all criticism constructive. Regardless of your stance in this debate, be respectful to others. Feel free to challenge their viewpoints but in a gentlemanly way AND BE KIND.
I know there'll be a few mistakes here and there so I'll do my best to fix 'em.
Tags: gay, heterosexual, homosexual, law, marriage, redefine, redefinition, relationships
Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on January 8, 2013 at 10:57pm What I find amazing is that you all think because a man is gay he's less of a man.
According to whom?
I'd say effeminate men are less. I'll admit I can't respect a guy that acts like a teenage girl ... its all I can do not to strangle them 'til they lose consciousness. Though most of that type tend to be gay, its about their personality -- or excess thereof -- not who they want to bang. I have just as little respect for a straight guy that acts like a fairy, and can still respect a gay guy that doesn't. You don't strike me as a fairy.
You came here looking to pick a fight. And, you did. The guys you're fighting with don't dislike you because you're gay. They dislike you because you're being a dick. If I recall from previous conversations, I think JED is in favor of gay marriage. I know Sheildes is. Liam S. is. Pretty sure Tor is, too. You're enough of an ass that your allies don't like you.
Clearly, I'm not in favor of gay marriage. I am a Christian, and I believe homosexuality to be a sin. But, its one among many, and no worse than sins I've committed myself. If that bothers you, so be it. I won't apologize for it. I wouldn't expect you'd apologize for your beliefs, either.
Get a grip. Knock the chip off your shoulder and quit being a dick. Nobody's persecuting you ... even when we disagree.
JB
Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on January 9, 2013 at 6:58am Well said.
Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 9, 2013 at 5:13pm I love how people like you use the Bible to support your bigoted views, and they are bigoted because the Bible doesn't mention homosexuality outside of rape, exploitation and idolatry. The fact you believe I should not have marriage because I am not straight is the core of your argument here, that's a bias that translates to bigotry. Jesus prohibited divorce, yet I don't see you legislating against divorce, see the bias?
It's true, I might have come on a little strong, but come on! These little digs and opinions that are not constructive at all against me is a little much, why did YOU have to chime in with the back and fourth I was having with Jon for example? You also don't see me threatening people with reporting them because they disagree with me. Look WHY I got into it with Tor. His jockstrap post was ridiculous and insulting to gay men on top of his delusion gay men are all over him like he was caramal. Notice how Jon throws in insults to conversations just for kicks? I have a reason for each one of the exchanges I've gotten into. Know what you're talking about before you harp.
Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on January 9, 2013 at 5:18pm I didn't threaten to report you. I did report you. Not because you disagreed with me though. The only thing we disagree on is whether or not you are worth the powder it would take to blow you to hell.
It's amazing. You're like the third gay guy in the last few months that comes on here all gang busters and p*sses everyone off with your attitude. You alienate even those who agree that you should have the right to be as unhappy as any heterosexual couple.
Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 9, 2013 at 5:24pm No one likes a rat Jon, You really couldn't keep it between us?
Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on January 9, 2013 at 5:43pm Between us? Really? What you posted was not exactly "between us". This is a public group. I'll guarantee you my msg to Brett was not the first one he received.
Everyone has their own line. I'm sure there are folks who are offended by some of my comments. They are free to complain as well. We generally do a pretty good job of self monitoring.
Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 9, 2013 at 6:00pm I hate cry babies, I also have no respect for someone who if they have a problem with me, they go running to a 3rd party instead of dealing with it like a mature man.
Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on January 9, 2013 at 6:04pm You cannot possibly think I care anything about whether you respect me. You are just another flash in the pan with an axe to grind on an internet forum.
You should have thanked me. Had you continued to use the language you'd started using you'd probably have been banned by now. I really could not possibly care less though. You'll self-ban soon enough.
Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 9, 2013 at 6:05pm Where are these 'uppity' gays of which you speak? I'd like to friend them so we can rule this place with an iron hand.
(The good looking male members will have to put out in what I like to call an "Oralfest.")
Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 9, 2013 at 6:13pm Oh lighten up Jon. What language? All I did was talk about pretty flowers.
I'd suggest looking in a mirror to find one
Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 9, 2013 at 7:11pm See, now why would you say that? You just want to come on here just to be a twat. Not funny, not clever, not relevent, just an asswipe who thinks what little zinger your little head can come up with is just so cute.
Looking in the mirror to see a flower...I get it because I'm gay right? LMFAOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE! YOU'RE KILLN' ME HERE!!!
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