Which of the three great genres do you guys prefer?

What are your reasons? 

Have fun. Geeking out is encouraged.

For me the holy grail is stuff that fuses more than one of the genres, but otherwise it almost like picking a favorite child. That being said, SF has the highest batting average for me, so I'd go with that.

Views: 180

Replies to This Discussion

Probably science fiction if I had to pick one by itself, but I really like fantasy as well. Fusions of the two are my favorite.

I usually don't like horror by itself after the 1960s. And by the 80s it's mostly stupid. Horror mixed in with science fiction is fine though.

Science Fiction. Been my favorite forever. Outside of that I like Biographies (usually by war photographers) and True Adventure Biographies (by climbers and adventurers). But if I could only take one genre...Science Fiction...It's all about characters. Most people think Science Fiction is about space battles and faster than light travel, but the science and the setting are a very small part of good Science Fiction.

I don't believe in "genres", the whole idea of 'genres' seems to be a fairly recent invention and excessively associated with blind 'fandom' and 'obsessions' rather than understanding the depth and nuance that universally underlies things.

Genres also seem to usually be an after-the-fact taxonomy by outside observers, rather than some script which the more creative people in any artistic field were blindly following a "list of predictable" tropes to emulate; so if anything I see "genres" as something that develop when less creative-minded people simply try to copy and emulate more original ideas who's creators were simply creating something entirely brand new, rather than conforming to some ugly list of tropes and stereotypes defined by a "genre".

I don't believe in "genres", the whole idea of 'genres' seems to be a fairly recent invention and excessively associated with blind 'fandom' and 'obsessions'

At least as far as the idea of genres is concerned, it is not a recent invention. Certainly Plato and Aristotle described genres in the 4th century BCE. Genre theory has been around for a while.

Possibly so, however my take is that the creative geniuses in most any field didn't just think of themselves as "part of a genre", they were creating something purely original, and it was people who came after them, and tried to emulate them that ended up being described as "the genre".

The Beatles for example didn't describe themselves as "British invasion rock", it was critics who came after them and all of the other bands who tried to copy their style who did that. 

And the Beatles weren't just trying to imitate a list of predictable "genre tropes", they were trying to come up with something new that had never been done before, that's my point and why I don't like the idea of 'genres' overall.

As an example, I believe when Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings trilogy, he was essentially penning a brand new creation and style, as opposed to merely imitating all of the predicable "fantasy tropes" that originated in his work.

Plus, as another example, referring to something like "anime" as a "genre" is kind of bland any pointless - anime is just a style of animation, and as far as 'cartoons' in general go, there's not much similarity between a Mickey Mouse cartoon and... "South Park" other than they're both drawn in animation.

And heck, a person could be a huge fan of Lord of the Rings, but hate Game of Thrones.

Or for that matter, "super hero" and "comic book" films is another example - I mean when you think about it, a film like Iron Man is basically a type "science fiction", so why are "superhero" media separated into their own "genre" just because they originated in comic books, as opposed to just being subsets of broader genres?

Seems it would be much better for people to evaluate each individual work of art on a case-by-case basis, rather than just blindly fetishize some "genre"; the whole notion of "genres" just seems like an uglification and complication of things - probably associated with the commercialization of art, in which studios simply crank out films with "lists of predictable genre tropes" with the primary goal just being sales rather than creativity or originality.

Why do you hate fun?

the whole idea of 'genres' seems to be a fairly recent invention

It is not. you are wrong. 

Genres existed even when Shakespeare was writing - Histories, Comedies, and Tragedies. That was the 17th century, hardly recent. That is just one account of genres being used after 30 seconds of research. 

Every heard of a thing called poetry? A genre of literature. 

Not remotely a fan of horror with the exception of the Anne Rice Vampire books, which are hardly horror.

Science Fiction gets too preachy for me

So that leaves Fantasy. Re-reading my way through the Dresden Files right now.

Grew up with the Piers Anthony Xanth series, moved into some of the Dragon Lance and the Dragon Riders series. Of course did the Robert Jordan Wheel of Time. Did a couple of the Game of Thrones but made my pick of Jordan for authors taking for ever to release a new book. Lots of others that I've read and can't remember.

Mostly trade off between business books and Ludlumesque suspense style books these days.

Hard to answer. What I usually like the best out of all those genres are the stories behind the action; the origin story behind the monster, the mythology behind the epic task, the principle or concept behind the state of affairs in that fictional world. For example, one thing I found really fascinating was the concept of the Anglo-Sino alliance in the Firefly series. I also got way more out of dialogue involving the Morpheus, the Merovingian, the Architect (etc.) in the Matrix than any of the chase or fight scenes. And, when watching Mad Max: Fury Road, I kept wondering what led to the conditions of that world, how did that big ugly old dude get into power, how did that society come to be and how did its culture come to syncretize Norse paganism with gearhead / grease monkey car culture? Another example: District 9; a very tacky movie according to a lot of people but I thought the concept (discrimination against refugee aliens in previously-Apartheid South Africa) was very original! I loved the principles of time and linguistics in Arrival, too.  In Game of Thrones, I'm most interested in the origin and background of the Night King and his hoard. I could go on and on.

Long story short, I prefer a story that has a bit of depth and an interesting concept behind it.

As for individual styles or genres, there's so much overlap that it's hard for me to classify most movies into a single genre. I do like overlap, though.

How do you feel about Prometheus and Alien Covenant?

Didn't seen Covenant.

Saw Prometheus and didn't love it but didn't hate it. Liked the idea behind it but half-assed watched it while multitasking so not really in a good position to speak about it.

RSS

Latest Activity

Darren Holte replied to Portnoy's discussion Integrity
"Just a few thoughts. Why lie at all ? Your deadlines are not your suppliers concern. Every good plan has cushion and contingency.  I.e. your project deadline is july 31st. You need ten thousand widgets in your warehouse by july 15th in order…"
1 hour ago
Native Son replied to Portnoy's discussion Latest in Health Care in the group The Great Debate
"One thing I noticed about the entire debacle. In March, 2016, then Mr. Trump released a seven point healthcare plan outline that he wanted Congress to adopt. As far as I can tell, the only parts of his proposals that showed up in either the House or…"
3 hours ago
Native Son replied to Specs's discussion I need some work advice.
"Cool your jets.  This hill ain't worth dying on.  Let it slide, but make damn sure your emails actually get sent.  (I had a similar 'went to draft' email situation when I went to Windows 10.  A number, but not all,…"
4 hours ago
Native Son replied to Danny's discussion Militaria
"Just don't let the hobby take over and run your life to the exclusion of all else.  You do want to have provenance on stuff.  There's lots of reproduction stuff around, especially since "military recreating" became a…"
4 hours ago
Jay D replied to Portnoy's discussion Integrity
"Were i want to get at is less the lying part and more the part were we put other people under pressure. From the business perspective it makes perfect sense to put people under pressure so they make deadlines so your projects or your company…"
12 hours ago
Profile IconCaberry, Eder Prado, Moses Vandenberg and 9 more joined Art of Manliness
12 hours ago
Pale Horse replied to Native Son's discussion Political and Personal Advice from Rome. in the group The Great Debate
"?"
13 hours ago
Michael Hoogkamer updated their profile
13 hours ago

© 2017   Created by Brett McKay.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service