Was shown this political social/economic test that places you on a four-way axis, opposites being Libertarianism/Authoritarianism and Left and Right.
Although clearly not completely accurate, it's interesting.
Just thought I'd share this, I found it quite interesting, where do you lie?
My result showed me to be Centre-Right Libertarian: 6.75,-2.41
Everybody's selling something. Seems the creator of this grid's trying to sell the same line many of you on the left are. That's also doesn't inspire much confidence. From the perspective of the far left, maybe he is to the right. From the perspective of everybody else in the country, he isn't. This grid is clearly authored from an extremely left-leaning perspective.
He's labeled a socialist because that's the framework from which he governs. He doesn't accomplish everything he'd like, and his half-measures sometimes fall short of what y'all leftists might dream of ... but, socialism underlies every step he takes, regardless of how small it is.
This "compass" was constructed to sell Obama to the middle-right, or otherwise to push toward Gary Johnson. Nothing more. I took the quiz ... and lined up fairly close to Obama on the left-right spectrum. I'm opposed to roughly everything he's ever done ... and we're within a single or two grid squares left-right (though fairly far apart on the A-L spectrum, but in the same quadrant).
Its worth asking why somebody would write a grid that comes out that way ... with many far closer to Obama than they'd've guessed, and most on the right coming out near Gary Johnson rather than Mitt Romney. There's always an agenda.
"This "compass" was constructed to sell Obama to the middle-right"
You realize that the compass has existed under various names since the early 60s, right? (And that the current compass site has been around for over a decade and is based in the UK?)
I was speaking of this specific grid/questionnaire, and the 'strategic' placement of 2012 candidates for voter suggestion. The four quadrant system may have been around for a while ... this questionnaire and voter guide have not.
and is based in the UK
I assume you think that proves your point rather than mine.
According to this grid, there apparently exists no candidate on the authoritarian left in the United States. Not a single one. The leftists are all "libertarians" ... and all the authoritarians are on the "right". Including Obama. The authoritarian left is just a mirage we conservatives imagined. The true authoritarians are just conservatives that are cleverly disguised as leftists ... and the true leftists are just libertarians that happen to want a very "libertarian" command-and-control economy.
No agenda there at all. What a joke.
LOL! How many times have I stated on AoM that Obama is neither socialist nor leftist? ;)
Just another leftist talking-point ... trying to mainstream the outside-of-mainstream by claiming Obama isn't what he is. Clever. Still not buying it.
Ridicule and dismiss. You'll have to do better than that.
Why bother? I know I won't be able to convince you otherwise. You're obviously very entrenched in your position; it seems like every second post of yours is about Obamacare. I just find it amusing that your reaction is to claim that this is a leftist conspiracy to sell Obama.
You're obviously very entrenched in your position
Likewise. And, no, you can't convince me that there exists no authoritarian left in this country. Complete horseshit from somebody that either doesn't want to be seen as authoritarian, or doesn't want the trainwreck caused by the left in this country to be attributed to his ideology. Or both.
I've seen the authoritarian left in action. I've seen it shut businesses down. I've seen it brainlessly upend the healthcare system. I've seen it get a major CEO fired for failure-to-conform. I've seen it ban. I've seen it mandate. I've seen it ostracize. I've seen it audit political enemies. I've seen it tax. I've seen it spend. I've seen it all. The American authoritarian left is as thriving as it has ever been.
Everybody has an agenda. That's not a conspiracy theory. Its a fact. Why would the creators of this questionnaire and voter guide be any different?
It is concerning how many conservatives on this site gave credence to it without question. I'm sure many more did last election cycle.
I haven't been following the thread, but I can address this question. Is it reasonable to imagine that those on the left would want to sell Obama? Would people on the left be more likely to want to sell Obama, or those on the right?
If they did -- or if they wanted to sell some view further left than his -- would it work better to portray him as on the left, or as on the right but closer to the center than his opponents?
The answers are obvious, aren't they? Whether we refer to people speaking as "conspiracy" or simply as speech.
I never said there was "no real difference." Just that on a global political spectrum, this is accurate - our liberals are far right of most european liberal politicians. That's hardly equivalent to utilizing the entire electromagnetic spectrum to minimize differences, except as an extreme distortion of its own.