Was shown this political social/economic test that places you on a four-way axis, opposites being Libertarianism/Authoritarianism and Left and Right.
Although clearly not completely accurate, it's interesting.
Just thought I'd share this, I found it quite interesting, where do you lie?
My result showed me to be Centre-Right Libertarian: 6.75,-2.41
Just another leftist talking-point ... trying to mainstream the outside-of-mainstream by claiming Obama isn't what he is. Clever. Still not buying it.
Ridicule and dismiss. You'll have to do better than that.
Why bother? I know I won't be able to convince you otherwise. You're obviously very entrenched in your position; it seems like every second post of yours is about Obamacare. I just find it amusing that your reaction is to claim that this is a leftist conspiracy to sell Obama.
You're obviously very entrenched in your position
Likewise. And, no, you can't convince me that there exists no authoritarian left in this country. Complete horseshit from somebody that either doesn't want to be seen as authoritarian, or doesn't want the trainwreck caused by the left in this country to be attributed to his ideology. Or both.
I've seen the authoritarian left in action. I've seen it shut businesses down. I've seen it brainlessly upend the healthcare system. I've seen it get a major CEO fired for failure-to-conform. I've seen it ban. I've seen it mandate. I've seen it ostracize. I've seen it audit political enemies. I've seen it tax. I've seen it spend. I've seen it all. The American authoritarian left is as thriving as it has ever been.
Everybody has an agenda. That's not a conspiracy theory. Its a fact. Why would the creators of this questionnaire and voter guide be any different?
It is concerning how many conservatives on this site gave credence to it without question. I'm sure many more did last election cycle.
I haven't been following the thread, but I can address this question. Is it reasonable to imagine that those on the left would want to sell Obama? Would people on the left be more likely to want to sell Obama, or those on the right?
If they did -- or if they wanted to sell some view further left than his -- would it work better to portray him as on the left, or as on the right but closer to the center than his opponents?
The answers are obvious, aren't they? Whether we refer to people speaking as "conspiracy" or simply as speech.
I never said there was "no real difference." Just that on a global political spectrum, this is accurate - our liberals are far right of most european liberal politicians. That's hardly equivalent to utilizing the entire electromagnetic spectrum to minimize differences, except as an extreme distortion of its own.
That's not the global political spectrum. There is simply no way that Virgil Goode -- an American Constitutional conservative, not a Saudi cleric -- is the pinnacle of global right-wing authoritarianism. Even as a global representation ... its a major distortion.
A distortion that intentionally places American conservatives at the extreme edge. Virgil Goode is not more extreme than Bashar Al Assad. Than Hu Jintao (the right-wing Chinese communist, apparently). They've got Virgil Goode -- an American Conservative -- as equivalently authoritarian to Robert Mugabe. I don't know a ton about Goode ... but I'm damn sure he's not Robert Mugabe.
This grid is a joke.
A fair point. I still maintain that Obama is pretty right of European liberals, enough to where he could be considered a conservative without deliberate misrepresentation.
Just for shits and giggles what definition of conservative are you using?
For giggles, for this conversation - The way a French or British parliamentarian might be defined. David Cameron, for instance. Some elements of Fiscal responsiblity (as well as moderate tax breaks - from 50% down to 45%), but still spending on socialized healthcare, education (including subsidized university) and other infrastructure.