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Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 16, 2013 at 11:44pm

Reminds me of MMA fighter Dakota Cochrane who did gay porn and got nailed for it. And boy did he get nailed, against the wall, on the floor, on a sofa, reverse cowgirl position...

Permalink Reply by Nick H on January 17, 2013 at 3:56am

Funny that they are dismissing her for being a poor role model. Here's a woman who had debt and took on a difficult job (which I believe is still a legal one in the US) to pay it off. The school seems to think a better example for the kids would have been to just declare bankruptcy or get a loan extension. If this is how kids are being taught to handle their responsibilities, no wonder the US is in such huge amount of debt.

Permalink Reply by LShieldes on January 17, 2013 at 10:03am

As a nation, we are pretty stupid sometimes, a lot of times, too many times.

Permalink Reply by Cisco Carson on January 17, 2013 at 4:41pm

I whole heartedly agree Nick. Like you, I believe a significant chunk of the US debt is because grade school children see the examples of women being fired because they do porn like "Big Black in Little Cherries" instead of getting loan extensions.

Permalink Reply by Nick H on January 18, 2013 at 4:28am

I believe its from a lack of accepting one's own responsibilities. I think you are making a joke but remove the not so subtle remark about it being porn and that is exactly what I believe. The kids see a generation of adults who think bankruptcy or begging for more assistance from government are legitimate ways to handle their responsibilities and yes, this attitude leaves us with a country that owes trillions without any plan as to how to pay it back other than to hand it off to someone else.

I believe porn is a legal form of employment in the US, is it not? Furthermore, I believe there are laws against making such porn available to these children thereby if they were to view it, it was not her fault. Finally, I believe this woman made the porn before signing her contract for her fulltime job (which might require her to abstain from such industries).

Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on January 18, 2013 at 11:14am

Legal does not necessarily mean acceptable.  She was within her rights to perform in a porn movie ... and the district, and parents of students, are within their rights determining that she's not fit to teach because of it.  She has the right to use her judgment, and they have the right to use theirs.

 

This will be the real hurdle if mj is legalized.  Just because its legal doesn't mean you can't be canned for failing a drug test.

JB

Permalink Reply by Paul_of_TX on January 18, 2013 at 11:21am

Political speech is not only legal but protected by law. Still teachers are not allowed to endorse or even tell students what their political beliefs are. Teachers are held to a higher standard than someone who flips burgers because they are shaping children and their actions have much more impact.

Permalink Reply by LShieldes on January 18, 2013 at 11:25am

So then teachers can't go online to stand up for their political beliefs because your child might see it and it might conflict with how you want your child to be?
Is this the same with religion? Gay/Straight?

Basically, I just don't see how this affects teaching a kid about math or science. Sure, I could understand ethics, but we wouldn't ask any jerkoff from Congress to teach that either.

Teacher sits the kids down, yes this was my past, but this isn't math or science, we will not discuss this again. You pay attention, you study, you make the grades or you fail and flip burgers your whole life.

Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on January 18, 2013 at 11:32am

It affects her credibility, her authority, her ability to be a suitable representative of the school, her fitness as a caretaker of people's children, and her ability to control the classroom.  It isn't about what she's teaching.  It is about her credibility as an authority figure to her students.

 

I don't want a teacher to have to have a sit-down with my kid about her porn movie.  She's unfit.

JB

Permalink Reply by LShieldes on January 18, 2013 at 12:02pm

You didn't asnwer the main question, if the kids stumble upon her politics, or religion, or sexual orientation, can that make those equally as destructive?

Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on January 18, 2013 at 12:14pm

I thought that question was directed at Paul.  I would make a distinction between private life and public life.  For the most part, what you do in private is your business.  Public behavior is not so limited.

 

My wife is a teacher, and won't even order alcohol in restaurants our area of town. She runs into students and parents all-the-time, and is mindful of that.  She also doesn't post facebook pictures that she wouldn't want a student, or parent, or principal to see.

 

Public statements can affect your classroom suitability ... but, mainstream political opinions shouldn't, so long as they're not actually brought into the classroom.  Not-so-mainstream politics could very well end your career, though.  People with a lot less influence than a teacher get dragged over the coals all the time for stupid Twitter posts.

 

Same with gay people.  If it is your private life ... it is your private life.  Live and let live.  If your picture is in the paper in a pride parade dressed in an S&M costume with your tits hanging out ... its not really your private life anymore.

 

Teaching is a unique profession ... people turn custody of their children over to you for 8-hours a day.  A good parent is going to look at those teaching their kids with some scrutiny.

JB

Permalink Reply by Shane on January 18, 2013 at 12:22pm

What if she was a good teacher but a crappy porn star?

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