I can only find opinion pieces. But what I can find says that the administration is insisting (with an attempt to get the UN to assist) in an immediate unconditional ceasefire, including Israel allowing open borders, not closing the tunnels, and ending the arms embargo; and that it is thus opposed not only to Israel, but also Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi.

What's the real story?

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"and that it is thus opposed not only to Israel, but also Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi."

I don't understand this part. Who is opposed to those countries doing what

US admin, as I read it, is opposed to Israel's actions in Gaza, and Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi are supportive.

Saudi supports whatever the US says in the region. 

As for Jordan and Israel, they have peace treaties with Israel and thus will support peace but not Israel per se. They also don't want their countries flooded with displaced Palestinian refugees as a result of an ongoing war and/or Israel completely annexing what's left of Gaza and the West Bank. 

So you're saying that the Saudi support Mr. Obama's attempt to negotiate with Iran & the unfreezing of billions of dollars?

Anyway, gotta run but will simply say this: Any "insisting" that the US does is meaningless unless it realistically threatens to pull all the financial and military support it gives Israel. Until then, it's all posturing. 

I agree with the way you think, but I apply to it to the Palestinians. The EU & US are effectively subsidizing terrorists murdering Jews. It happens often enough each year so that you could run numbers on what kind of back sophisticated politicians get for the public monies they give to Hamas.

And the US is subsidizing terrorists murdering Arabs/Palestinians, displacing Bedouins, imprisoning African migrants, harassing and spitting on little girls in Jerusalem, etc. 

There is bad on both sides. 

Well, FDR & Hitler both did bad things, but one of them was a monster & one a hero of rare stature in the 20th century. Jews are as much right as was FDR.

What I'm reading is that the US is promising Hamas cash.  I don't know what the pretext is, but I know what Hamas does with its resources:  it kills Jews.  Surely paying such people is more than posturing! if it's true that the administration has made such plans.

What difference does it make? Does not the money paid for decades to the Palestinian Authority by both Europeans & Americans subsidize killing Jews? Has Hamas never seen a dime of that?

I see what you did there.

Wasnt the ceasefire over a few hours later since the Hamas kidnapped a israeli soldier?

However this time i fail to give a fuck about the whole conflict. We pretty much had the same situation a few years ago and it will repeat in a few years.

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