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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on November 15, 2012 at 5:45am

i understand that my logic may seem very jumpy but thats due to the word limt. i cant type the huge party this would need to be explained fully. i would be more than happy to answer questoins and take on challenges.

Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on November 15, 2012 at 6:22am

Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on November 15, 2012 at 6:25am

funny pic is there any way i can better explain i really want questoins. it should be easyer with dialouge.

Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on November 15, 2012 at 6:27am

i ment huge part not huge party no one get excited lol.

Permalink Reply by LShieldes on November 15, 2012 at 10:05am

I believe in both

Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on November 15, 2012 at 10:07am

It's a floor wax and a dessert topping.

Permalink Reply by Liam S. on November 15, 2012 at 10:33am

I do not see any evidences for god(s), whatsoever. Nor do I see that "we would all be like orcs" as a result of evolution alone. Society doesn't last long if you murder each other, bear false witness against one another, etc. Sympathy, Empathy, Trust, Love - Those emotions, and behaviors come from necessity of living together in groups - and indeed we see them even in simplified form among many animal societies as well. We've just taken them further. 

 

Whether belief in a god is a necessary thing is another matter - certainly mythology, faith and organized religions have played important roles over the millenia. We seem hard wired to want to believe - and perfectly content to create gods to fill those gaps if needed. The actual existence of god(s), is not as important as the role the people who believe in them play.

Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on November 15, 2012 at 12:58pm

i would say that the natural feeling of gulit is rather good proof of a god. why do i care if i stole another persons cow if haveing 2 cows ups my chance of survival and thus haveing offspring and yet i would feel gulity and sorry for what iv done and could return it kinda go's against natural selectoin as does heroism.

Permalink Reply by LShieldes on November 15, 2012 at 1:05pm

Because you don't want them coming back and stealing your cow, esp as you hated it when someone stole your "special" sheep

Permalink Reply by Shane on November 15, 2012 at 1:21pm

This is the second time today  you've mentioned "special" sheep.  Did you experience a loss recently?

Permalink Reply by Dan P. on November 15, 2012 at 1:16pm

Evolution/natural selection or God are not the only possible explanations of human behavior. Psychological development and socialization are very complex processes and can lead to a number of behaviors be they rational, irrational, good or bad. The guilt associated with stealing or other acts is instilled by the society one is raised in, through education or the threat of punishment, because that feeling helps control behavior and thus protect the society as a whole.

Permalink Reply by Rick Shelton on November 20, 2012 at 10:24pm

"Psychological development and socialization are very complex..."

First you have to get to the point where those processes can occur.  Phycological development may occur in a, somewhat, less mentally developed species but socialization requires some complexity and more advanced mental development.  The question on that regard is how complex or advanced must be the mentality of the species for the socialization process.

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