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Permalink Reply by The Original Cody on April 24, 2012 at 2:37pm

Permalink Reply by Nick H on April 25, 2012 at 7:23pm

As in poor taste as that was, I think the scene with the fried chicken kind of topped it.

Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on April 24, 2012 at 2:40pm

I wouldn't go so far as to say any consequences brought on Zimmerman are the result of fanaticism.  Zimmerman's decision-making was questionable enough to warrant a review by a Grand Jury.  Perhaps prosecution.  Choosing to use deadly force in an altercation should come with the knowledge that a cop, prosecutor, and/or jury may second-guess you.  Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 ... but you very well may be judged by 12.

 

I don't necessarily think he's guilty of anything.  My understanding is that the 2nd degree murder charge is sloppy, at best -- political and unethical, at worst.  Even lefty attorney Alan Dershowitz has slammed the prosecutor for a breach of ethics in the charge.  Let the man be judged fairly.

 

The hysteria is fanaticism.  The riots and lynch mobs are fanaticism.  The rhetoric from activists and black supremacist groups is fanaticism.  The fact that the guy is in hiding is due to fanaticism.

 

I don't see any reason that beating shouldn't be investigated as a hate crime.  Your thread title is over-the-top.

 

JB

Permalink Reply by Ryan Michael Green on April 24, 2012 at 3:06pm

Jack Bauer wrote:
Your thread title is over-the-top.
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Intentionally so. Perhaps a less-than-obvious continuation of the cycle of escalation we so often see in cases such as these.

Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on April 24, 2012 at 3:20pm

Strains your credibility, though.

 

JB

Permalink Reply by Ryan Michael Green on April 24, 2012 at 3:59pm

Jack Bauer wrote:
Strains your credibility, though.
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Nobody on the internet has credibility. The anonymity which is the nature of the beast eliminates a speaker's authority and credibility. I could claim to be anything I want here, and people would believe me or disbelieve me at their leisure. So, too, is it with one's credibility, barring the repeated publication of blatant falsehoods.

 

I may draw some scorn for my choice of thread title, but the fact that Zimmerman faces hate crime charges for defending himself while this mob of feral dogs does not indicates to me that "hate crime legislation" is decidedly one-sided.

Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on April 24, 2012 at 4:04pm

You have only the credibility you engender -- online or off.

JB

Permalink Reply by LShieldes on April 25, 2012 at 7:01am

While not everyone agrees with me, with the exception of very few here, I would say that I have built up a fair amount of credibility, same as Jack and Will and Liam and many others.

 

Just because this community is carried out through text, doesn't mean that credibility cannot be obtained and maintained.  Same as with displays of integrity, respect and so on.

 

Yes, you can claim to be anything you want, we have had guys kicked off who claimed to be other guys.  We also have a vast majority of men who simpy claim to be men on a website built for men to help other men.  Why don't you just claim to be a man, and let your actions define you.

 

Or you can just be angry and make outlandish claims

Permalink Reply by D.J. on April 26, 2012 at 1:45am

I'm just waiting for Titus to respond to this...

Titus O Titus, where art thou Titus?

Permalink Reply by Titus Techera on April 28, 2012 at 1:59am

What do you want me to say? Weren't beaches closed in Chicago last summer because mobs of young blacks were beating whites? Did not the black mayor of Philadelphia impose curfews last summer for similar reasons & tried to talk some sense to young blacks? It happens sometimes. Law enforcement is not what it ought to be. Most people I have met in colleges are instinctively guilty about being white & believe instinctively that blacks are being discriminated against. They teach it to kids who absorb it day by day, even when there is no hysterical white-guilt screed. So far as I have seen college kids, they are weaker, less confident creatures than adolescents & young adults generally. Very easily browbeaten or scared away from unpopular non-multicultural stuff.

I think any group that starts feeling this sort of guilt deserves the worst it's getting. So far as I know, people in colleges dare not talk about the effect college has on young Americans, how many lose their faith within a year of getting into college, & worse, how many lose their sense of why Americans believe college is a worthy accomplishment, which makes them doubt whether America is worth much...

By the way, beware playing Juliet, a clever girl, but imprudent.

Permalink Reply by Khalid El-Talabani on April 28, 2012 at 7:35am

I agree whole heatedly. I have come across a couple of college kids on the internet that feel guilty. This throe in character in college students is partially why I joined the Army and did not go straight to college. Now I am going to school online where I do not have to be involved in the mix and deal with week minded people as such; though when I get out in a couple of months I may supplement my online learning with one class at a brick and mortar school.  

Permalink Reply by Titus Techera on April 28, 2012 at 8:56am

It's not hard to deal with the pathetic liberalism of the American college if you know it's there, especially if you have a basic awareness of why things are as bad as they are. But it is not pleasant. -- If you have, however, some professors, courses, or students that really focus your interest, then there's no problem.

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