For some reason - perhaps it's just the years stacking up on me - when I look at world news lately as presented online and on television I have a hard time understanding the motives behind a good chunk of the killing and dieing going on, and more troubling to me is the cheering from the sidelines.

    In Syria, a revolution started when police tortured and killed children just because they'd spray-painted some words on a wall. When a father went to the police to ask about his son, the police chief told him to "forget he had this son, go home and make another and if you're not man enough to do it bring me your wife and I'll do it for you - you shouldn't have raised him to be unpatriotic". 

    OK, game on - If I were that father I'd have armed myself and started killing police, and if it had happened to a neighbor I'd have armed myself and helped him kill police.

    Gaza seems a bit murkier. Certainly a lot of injustice in the area, but the best standard of living an arab can have outside of a royal family is through citizenship in the state of Israel. Those Israelis in Sdrot getting rockets rained down on them moved to Sdrot just to be activist settlers and fight the palestinians. The same can be said for a good chunk of the palestinians shooting the rockets - Gaza is one of the most densely populated places in the world, but it was virtually empty a few decades ago. People moved there to fight.

    What were the injustices that made these rebels in the Ukraine decide to take that 500 million euro anti-aircraft system from Russia and use it? 

     I hear a lot of creeps online and on talk radio in the US that use rhetoric that's thinly veiled calls to arms - much talk about tyranny, when the "people will stand up", that the "tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants", etc.... but I have a hard time seeing socialized medicine as tyranny..

     So my question is, what's worth killing or being killed for? I don't even know if the American Revolution was justified.

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I was referring more to talk radio callers than the hosts. Callers typically just regurgitate the same "I'm a patriot, liberals are stupid, only I understand the constitution, Barack Obama is an undercover muslim socialist that wants to destroy america" blather to each other, seeded with "I was in the service", and "I reckon there ort be a shootin' revolution"

Jefferson and Adams were doers - It's the talkers I despise

This should be good.

"Gaza seems a bit murkier. Certainly a lot of injustice in the area, but the best standard of living an arab can have outside of a royal family is through citizenship in the state of Israel."

Disagree. 

"Gaza is one of the most densely populated places in the world, but it was virtually empty a few decades ago. People moved there to fight."

You used to be able to enter Gaza and leave it. Then the Israelis put a wall around it, closed to border into Israel, put the navy near the shores of the Mediterranean, and told Egypt to close the other border. People didn't move to Gaza to fight; people are stuck there.  

It's not that I don't care. It's that I already know enough about the area and the situation to know that Arabs wouldn't want to flock to Gaza for the sake of fighting Israel and that, in most cases, they can't flock to Gaza for any reason at all. 

Welp, since Israel evicted 10 thousand jewish settlers from the Gaza strip prior to handing over control to the Palestinian Authority ,and since the  Gaza birth rate has been in decline, how do you explain the population growth?

The birth rate might be in decline but it's still very high. It's the 13th highest birthrate in the world. A place with a birthrate that's twice the US' is bound to get pretty dense, especially when it's only 140 square miles and people aren't allowed to leave.

One cannot simply move to Gaza. In fact, people cannot simply pop into Gaza for a visit. It's on lock down. Even Palestinians from Israel and the West Bank have to jump through countless administrative and legal hoops just to get a temporary permission to enter Gaza temporarily; permissions that are granted very rarely. People don't migrate to Gaza, period. The CIA World Factbook estimates the net migration rate in Gaza to be zero

The only exception would be displaced Palestinian refugees from the West Bank and Israel.

People go to Gaza all the time. I was there in 2008. There are actually pretty swanky parts. It's fashionable in arab states to do something for "the cause" and invest in Gaza. Now - go to Ramallah and let it be known you're an American and you can pick the tree they'll hang you from. Of course, the situation is fairly dynamic, but I know peeps who've been there recently

"go to Ramallah and let it be known you're an American and you can pick the tree they'll hang you from."

I was in Ramallah two years ago. Everyone assumed I was an American. No harm came to me. In fact, everyone was quite nice. 

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Taxation without representation. The right to keep and bear arms. Freedom of speech. Freedom of religion. The right to assembly. Any infringement of liberty that cannot be resolved peacefully.

What's going on is like that Genesis song- a Land of Confusion. 2 Timothy 3:2 is truer than ever before.

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