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The Great Debate

"Iron sharpens iron." A place for men to impact each other by debate and exchange of ideas. This is a group where no ideas are off limits. If your motto is, "I never talk about politics or religion," this group is probably not for you. A "gym" for thinkers.

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Nevada Ranch War ...

Started by Jack Bauer. Last reply by John Muir 8 minutes ago. 229 Replies

Anybody been following the "Range War" in Nevada?  The whole thing reads like a fairly entertaining western movie. As I understand it, the Bundy family has used State land for cattle-grazing purposes…Continue

Obama's Press Secretary decorates his home with Soviet Propaganda!

Started by Andrew D, USA Ret. Last reply by Regular Joe 7 hours ago. 60 Replies

Here's the purported evidence and article that exposes it:…Continue

Voter Scrutiny-- What's the Hangup?

Started by Pale Horse. Last reply by Shane 7 hours ago. 50 Replies

    When I was watching the news today, they were talking about Bill O'Reilly's take on better voter scrutiny. Apparently people are saying that having a picture on your social security card violates…Continue

Tags: Privacy, Discrimination, Minorities, Voting, Voter

Guns and violence

Started by Nick H. Last reply by Regular Joe Apr 11. 5 Replies

I saw a recent joke post made by a blogger who theorised which Canadian City would best survive a zombie invasion.…Continue

Political Compass Test

Started by Ben. Last reply by Pale Horse Apr 10. 107 Replies

Take the Test HereWas shown this political social/economic test that places you on a four-way axis, opposites being…Continue

Letter From a Survivor of the Fort Hood Massacre

Started by Andrew D, USA Ret. Last reply by Wayne Apr 10. 4 Replies

In my opinion, the letter below from First LT Patrick Cook cannot be improved upon.  It says it all and I am in total support of his conclusions.…Continue

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Comment by Paul_of_TX on April 2, 2014 at 4:40pm

The government has a message for Mr. Larry Basich

Comment by Jack Bauer on April 2, 2014 at 4:34pm

Broken websites are further evidence of government incompetence, and further proof that they have no business imposing themselves in private healthcare.  The fact that people have, out of an extreme excess of trust, paid for insurance that they didn't get is not merely a website problem, though.  It is a competence problem.

 

But, you are correct that the fundamental problems with this law are much deeper and more significant than mere IT concerns or bureaucratic incompetence.

Comment by Liam S. on April 2, 2014 at 4:08pm

John- ? I'm paying for it. More than most on employer plans, less than I was on an individual plan before. Not sure what I'm thanking you for, but... I'm a nice guy. Thanks?

Andrew - yes, broken website systems are a problem. Not a fundamental problem with the law, but still a problem.

Comment by Andrew D, USA Ret on April 2, 2014 at 3:51pm

With regard to the effects of the ACA, this should give a lot of folks grave concerns:

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/02/first-class-action-lawsuit-...

Comment by John Lee Pettimore on April 2, 2014 at 3:31pm

@Liam: You're welcome.

Comment by Jack Bauer on April 2, 2014 at 3:23pm

Nobody was using AOM as a sample to extrapolate the US participation rate.  I used the US participation rate to figure what you'd expect at AOM.  Given the overwhelming lack of participation nationwide ... you'd expect one percent of AOM, at most.  So, just a few Obamacare-sucklers, even if AOM was a perfectly representative sample of the US.  So far, the theory holds fine.

Comment by Steve Dallas on April 2, 2014 at 3:00pm

Titus, you have made one of your most intelligent observations. Yes, AOM leans conservative, esp the GD, so no, I don't find that a direct national correlation can be made off of the AOM population as a quality sample of the US population.

Comment by Liam S. on April 2, 2014 at 2:37pm

Saving us about 25% in costs outright this year - even more over time, since our deductible is lower, and it has better prescription coverage than our old plan.

Comment by Liam S. on April 2, 2014 at 2:36pm

We have an ACA insurance package as well. Makes a lot of sense for us, as a freelancer (no employer insurance), individual plans through regular insurance carriers still get the shaft.

Comment by Titus Techera on April 2, 2014 at 1:02pm

I, for one, like to think that the forums on AoM are not the hangout of the sons of Obamacare...

 

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Larry replied to Josh Allen's discussion If you can tell me what religion you are then you are in a prison.
"It's never wrong to question any belief, or especially any religious claim.   My Holy Book tells me to not believe every "spirit" but to test them, to see if they are from God.   For many people, It's quite…"
3 minutes ago
John Muir replied to Jack Bauer's discussion Nevada Ranch War ... in the group The Great Debate
"Liam, we all know that ONLY conservatives can be patriotic, or unbiased, or question the government. Everybody is stupid except conservatives. They are the only people who have actually read the constitution, and the only people who see through the…"
8 minutes ago
John C. replied to Josh Allen's discussion If you can tell me what religion you are then you are in a prison.
"That's totally idealistic. Most people can't live without the certainty of their own mortality and too many others can't be trusted to figure out why it's in their self interest to be civilized, so I think it's fair to say…"
13 minutes ago
John Muir replied to Jack Bauer's discussion Nevada Ranch War ... in the group The Great Debate
"Hey! I've been in Valley of Fire State Park - they shot a lot of Star Trek episodes there"
18 minutes ago
Josh Allen replied to Josh Allen's discussion If you can tell me what religion you are then you are in a prison.
"I look forward to the day when everyone abandons religion altogether.  "
29 minutes ago
Andrew D, USA Ret replied to Jack Bauer's discussion Nevada Ranch War ... in the group The Great Debate
"Here is a highly interesting article regarding Federal government ownership of land in the USA.  The constitution has been "interpreted" over the centuries of its existence and could easily be argued to have lost the intent of the…"
32 minutes ago
Nathanael replied to Josh Allen's discussion If you can tell me what religion you are then you are in a prison.
"This one's funny, can we keep him?"
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John C. replied to Josh Allen's discussion If you can tell me what religion you are then you are in a prison.
"How you read that into my comment is a mystery. Let me say it another way. Children aren't capable of processing religious dogma and indoctrination in a logical way and putting them through that before they have the wisdom and education to deal…"
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