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If you go to Iowa I may be able to be there for all or part of the weekend.
Aho, Carl! Personally I find extroverts to be exhausting, or maybe it's just super talkative people.
I do hear about testosterone-fueled ego in one group, but what about extroverts vs. introverts? I found the extroverts in our group dominating, simply because they love to talk about themselves...a lot. For an introvert like me, to talk about my problems is difficult (unlike here where I can hide). So I found after two years of group attendance I do know a lot more about myself, but very little work has been done. The extroverts simply take up most of the meeting time. One time I went out with one of them for a beer, nice guy, but all he did was talk about his problems the whole time. And he had initially invited me out because he knew I had hit a rough patch lately. After two hours he goes "oh, I forgot we got together to talk about what you are going through". I smiled, said that's ok, and asked for the check.
Men, sadly some in some MKP groups ego is key. A man has to find a group where he connects with the men. I havea friend that recently went through MKP weekend. He started to go to the I- group. In a short while he was told that he could not vocalize how he was feeling, when he was present in the group. He left the group. I gave him a thumbs up.
I think the ironic thing is that at the end of the day physicality and power held sway, rather than compassion and understanding. It made me realise that like any organisation it was only as good as it's leaders, as people are look up to men like this. I could no longer associate with an organisation that upheld the right of a bully over vulnerable men and I thought it was very hypocritical after the openness and raw feelings that had been encouraged just a week before. I am sorry for your experience and proud that you stepped up to make a complaint...I'm not bitter so much, just sad that the organisation is being let down and that men are not properly cared for after stepping up and taking such a risk to open themselves up to their fellow man.
We do have that problem, that people are loyal to persons rather than to principles, at times, and I had an awful experience of public humiliation I won't go into here, in my community. But not in my I-group. I made a complaint against the humiliate-r, and found him defensive and scared; I hadn't known I was so powerful.
It's a shame as I loved the initiation. I am going to attend another mens groups and hope that maybe this will be a more supportive initiation for me. I was very keen on MKP and thought before PIT that I had found the supportive group of men that I had always looked for. However after feeling humiliated I did not feel encouraged to attend I-groups.
Sorry to hear that; I've heard some groups are run with that sort of thing.
Our men's group is sputtering out. They have tried to get more to come, but men in this area seem to be too guarded and practical to be into this sort of thing.
The experience has been a gift and I will remember it fondly.
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