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Comment by Mongoose on June 15, 2015 at 9:00am

I hereby decree that a law go forth that states that all multi-Ward/unit buildings have sufficient space and parking to allow for units to overlap such that there are no early morning meetings.

Comment by JMD on June 15, 2015 at 8:50am

I'm glad I no longer have to attend early morning meetings on Sunday.  Of course, they released me from the bishopric and called me as a seminary teacher, so I'm not sure that's an improvement.

Comment by J. D. on June 12, 2015 at 8:00pm

I do not have to attend early morning meetings because, at least for now, I have no callings that require me to attend such meetings.  This is the one and only area of my life where I'm happy to be overlooked and passed over.  As to not much happening here; I have two thoughts.  First, it doesn't have to be that way, and second, this forum is more active than some for sure.

Comment by Jon Z on June 12, 2015 at 7:33pm

Not much goes on here.  Who hates 6:30 AM meetings?

Comment by Kit the Odd on February 5, 2015 at 10:31am

Our Stake (now 2 stakes) have been doing a big production like that for the last 10 Christmases.  Although we crammed the orchestra onto the podium area.  Last year we did a similar deal for the 4th of July, but also included an Army Material Command Band and community speakers.  (Huntsville, AL has a lot of military ties.)  These types of events are cool from both sides of the podium. 

Comment by Mongoose on February 5, 2015 at 7:46am

Our Stake has decided to do something significant for Easter for the community. Rationale is that we do all these big ole' things for Christmas, but Easter is quiet. So... They have cherry-picked the accomplished musicians/vocalists and actually called (yep, called) them to perform the Lamb of God. This is to be the first of an actual annual thingy, which (as we go forward in years) will remove the first few rows of pews for an orchestra pit and all.  We started practicing in August.

Have to admit, this piece is unbelievably moving. I have come to appreciate the drama and depth of His sacrifice in a deeper way as I practice.

Comment by Brother Joseph on January 12, 2015 at 11:52am
Mormon 9:19 and Alma 42:13, and several others, contain reference to the fact that if God does _________ he will cease to be God. That suggests that it is possible for a Celestial Being to fall. However, I don't believe that's possible because of the type of person who will be celestialized. The reason our obedience is tested in this life is to make sure that we are willing to use our agency to choose that which is right, otherwise how can we be trusted with higher power when the stakes are much higher.
Comment by J. D. on January 12, 2015 at 11:11am

First, if I may, agency is not, nor has it ever been free.  Not only is there the atonement to consider (a very high price to pay indeed), but there's also the fact that our agency comes at the price of the resulting consequences.  But to answer your question; I would say that it certainly is possible for an individual to fall after attaining the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom.  Lucifer fell, after all, and he fell from Celestial glory.  It seems probable that we certainly have the same potential to fall regardless how high we go.  I would suggest studying it out for yourself to get the answers.

Comment by Mongoose on January 12, 2015 at 9:12am

OK, so 1/3 the hosts of all heaven fell in the Fall (background info).

Now... We will always have free agency.  Will it be possible, after the Resurrection, for exalted beings to fall from the highest levels of the Celestial Kingdom? Is there an answer? Or is this just a "wait and see" type thingy?

Comment by J. D. on September 16, 2014 at 10:31pm

Same goes for you....feel free to start a chat if and when you see me around. If I have time to talk, I will.


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