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Comment by Brother Joseph on January 12, 2015 at 11:52am
Mormon 9:19 and Alma 42:13, and several others, contain reference to the fact that if God does _________ he will cease to be God. That suggests that it is possible for a Celestial Being to fall. However, I don't believe that's possible because of the type of person who will be celestialized. The reason our obedience is tested in this life is to make sure that we are willing to use our agency to choose that which is right, otherwise how can we be trusted with higher power when the stakes are much higher.
Comment by J. D. on January 12, 2015 at 11:11am

First, if I may, agency is not, nor has it ever been free.  Not only is there the atonement to consider (a very high price to pay indeed), but there's also the fact that our agency comes at the price of the resulting consequences.  But to answer your question; I would say that it certainly is possible for an individual to fall after attaining the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom.  Lucifer fell, after all, and he fell from Celestial glory.  It seems probable that we certainly have the same potential to fall regardless how high we go.  I would suggest studying it out for yourself to get the answers.

Comment by Rusty Rogers on January 12, 2015 at 9:12am

OK, so 1/3 the hosts of all heaven fell in the Fall (background info).

Now... We will always have free agency.  Will it be possible, after the Resurrection, for exalted beings to fall from the highest levels of the Celestial Kingdom? Is there an answer? Or is this just a "wait and see" type thingy?

Comment by J. D. on September 16, 2014 at 10:31pm

Same goes for you....feel free to start a chat if and when you see me around. If I have time to talk, I will.

Comment by Jonathan Wright on August 24, 2014 at 2:02am

How cool is it that there is a LDS Men page on AOM! I'm pretty new to the site, but excited to be here. look forward to posting with all of you guys!

Comment by Scott J on April 20, 2014 at 8:32pm

Handel Messiah fans -- Watch the Mormon Tab Choir perform the full Messiah on YouTube, recorded on Friday. Available till midnight Monday night.

Comment by Jimmy Johns on March 24, 2014 at 3:33am

Hi! Been blushing excessively for the last 2 years even when I am not embarrassed or when i am alone too. It started due to a very embarrassing encounter when I was with my friends. Funny thing is I don't How to Stop Blushing around strangers. It happens when I am with people I know. But after reading through your tips I think I know the problem. I will definitely try out your tips. Thanks!

Comment by N. Vest on January 24, 2014 at 9:50am

Recently released by the LDS church on the subject of race:

Comment by Dave Hess on December 31, 2013 at 11:35pm

Congratulations Andrew.  Your new mission president is a wonderful friend and a former member of our Stake Presidency.  You could not ask for finer mission president than Blake Murdock.  I talked with him a couple of weeks ago and told me how much they love getting new missionaries.  They are waiting for someone just like you. Go to it!  And if you ever make it to Delta Co. say Hi to my niece and her family...The Youst's. He's the only dentist in Delta. 

Comment by EA Burt on December 31, 2013 at 12:37pm

Congrats man! That's the day I reported in 2010. Study it up!


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