Information

LDS Men

A place to fellowship and discuss the issues of being an LDS man in today’s world.

Website: http://www.mormon.org
Location: In the world but not of the world.
Members: 166
Latest Activity: Aug 21

Discussion Forum

If, When, and Where?

Started by Ammon Beckstrom. Last reply by Spencer H Jul 18. 59 Replies

Camaraderie in Priesthood Quorums

Started by Kevin Lash. Last reply by Kit the Odd Feb 19. 24 Replies

Comment Wall

Comment

You need to be a member of LDS Men to add comments!

Comment by J. D. on July 8, 2015 at 8:14am

Yeah, right!  There's no way I'll be getting that call.  Amusing thought though.

Comment by Jon Z on July 8, 2015 at 2:12am

Hey everyone, what is going on? Which two of you will be getting phone calls in October?

Comment by Scott J on June 19, 2015 at 9:32pm

A significant announcement today: The release of the Freedmen's Bureau records.

Freedmen's Bureau Release

Comment by Mongoose on June 17, 2015 at 8:53am

JD. It's really a non-issue and I should not have brought it up. If you like the goatee, or if you like facial hair, grow it. You don't need to come up with an excuse such as vision. Just do it because you like it.

If others have an issue with it, give them some brotherly instruction on the difference between culture and Doctrine. Perhaps they will walk away enlightened.

Comment by J. D. on June 17, 2015 at 8:42am

I've never really thought about it, but I suppose you're right.  While I went school with a number of blind and low-vision students, I have been exposed to very few since then.  It's possible a few of them grow something or other, but I wouldn't be able to see it unless I got close enough, which is way too close.  It may turn out that the maintenance is not worth it or even possible for me, but I like the way it looked and felt back when I had one, so I would like to try again and see how it goes.  For me, shaving is a real pain since there always seem to be areas I miss or I get cut or get razor burn very easily.

Comment by Mongoose on June 16, 2015 at 2:20pm

JD, yea, I didn't mean to imply you were blind. I was just giving the hyper-version of low vision. I presumed you were just VI, not Blind.

I do know some dudes who are blind who shave their heads rather than grow worried over if their hair is OK. Generally, I think most guys who are blind just opt for short hair that's windproof so they don't fuss with it.

And, as you point out, each persons' function with what vision they have will be unique to that person.

The only thing I was pointing out is that low vision seems a very odd reason to grow a goatee rather than shave as it's more difficult to maintain the lines of facial hair than shave.

Comment by J. D. on June 16, 2015 at 1:01pm

First off, I am not totally blind.  I am a low-parcial, which means I have some usable vision.  Second, I only had my goatee all those years ago for a few weeks, and what trimming there was during that time was not hard for me to do on my own.  As far as convenience goes, I have a  friend who is totally blind that has been shaving his head since his college years because he just doesn't want to deal with maintaining a look for the benefit of everyone around him.  It's all a matter of how much vision the person has and what they're willing to do or try.

Comment by Mongoose on June 16, 2015 at 7:38am

Note:  most men who are completely blind shave daily rather than attempt a beard. As a professional in the field, I will say that it was quite a surprise when we had a keynote speaker, who was totally blind, who sported a beard. When I inquired of it later, it turns out his wife is a hair dresser and does his beard for him.

Comment by Mongoose on June 16, 2015 at 7:36am

As said, I am sorry the people in your life are so hung up on culture rather than doctrine. I can assure you that many leaders here have beards and no one says a word.

JD, I find it interesting that you claim you grew a goatee due to vision loss. It's actually much easier for  blind man to shave every day than to maintain facial hair. It takes far more acute vision skills to trim, edge, etc. facial hair. Shaving clean requires none, as it can be done by feel, alone.

Comment by J. D. on June 16, 2015 at 7:30am

John Z:  I agree with you 100% about the whole beard thing within the church.  I don't know why it is such a big deal.  Some years ago, I decided to try growing a goatee, largely because, as someone with a significant vision loss, shaving is rather difficult, especially on the jaw line and neck.  I grew a pretty good goatee in a little over two weeks, then went to a stake Priesthood meeting with my Dad one night.  Of the three guys who came up to say hi to me that I hadn't seen in a long time, one was fine with it, another remarked that he didn't like it or think it was appropriate for a man in the church to grow facial hair, and the third, who had been a scout leader of mine when I was about 10 and hadn't seen in many years, started to walk over and say hi, then took one look at my goatee and simply walked off as though he hadn't seen me at all.  I could not believe it was such a big deal, especially with the older guys.  I would love to try growing out the goatee again, especially since I was told it really looked good on me, but I don't want to have to deal with that kind of shallowness and judgement every week.  As I said, for me, it's not so much about style or trends or making a statement as much as it's a matter of practicality.  If it's hard for me to shave a certain area, it's just easier to grow it into something that looks good.

 

Members (166)

 
 
 

Latest Activity

StaggerLee replied to Zachary Stucki's discussion How do we inform more people about ISIS?
"I was speaking not of this admin, but of the political and social parallels in the middle east and the rise of ISIS. (Extreme nationalism -> extreme religious fervor; disenfranchised populace unwilling/incapable of confronting the extremism, mass…"
1 hour ago
Daniel replied to Braeden's discussion Reincarnation in the group The Great Debate
"It doesn't need to rise to the level of thought to have meaning. Moving toward the sunlight means survival. I'm arguing for meaning within material existence, not that all material reactions are thoughts. If there is meaning like this for…"
1 hour ago
Jack Bauer replied to Alex L's discussion Learn how to cook
"Simplicity is your friend.  Start with the half-dozen staples you eat all the time, and learn to cook them first.  You don't need fancy gourmet meals ... you need the basics.  Burgers.  Steaks.  Pork chops. …"
4 hours ago
Sir replied to Alex L's discussion Learn how to cook
"Get an easy basic cookbook for people who've never done it before, with a title like Easy Basics or Where's Mom Now that I Need Her?  It'll tell you the things other books assume you know, from how to boil an egg to…"
4 hours ago
Liam Strain replied to Zachary Stucki's discussion How do we inform more people about ISIS?
"I haven't heard of the "kicking citizens out of homes" - I knew they were building new housing, and retrofitting older units.  It's also coming with waves of far-right attacks on refugee centers.  Also, Sweden…"
4 hours ago
Pale Horse replied to Pale Horse's discussion Are Devices With Flappy Bird Still Valuable?
"Okay, thank you."
5 hours ago
Shane replied to Alex L's discussion Learn how to cook
"When I moved out on my own I started out with a frying pan and a Betty Crocker cook book.  After a while you get a feel/taste for what things are and can whip things together without a recipe.  If you want ease of use, try out A Man a Can…"
5 hours ago
Steve Dallas replied to Alex L's discussion Learn how to cook
"Check out the website simplyrecipes.com. We use it all the time. They take the time on how to do everything, plus tons of really good recipes. If I can use it, you can."
5 hours ago

© 2015   Created by Brett McKay.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service