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Permalink Reply by anil on October 13, 2012 at 11:57am

My main aim to propagate the divine knowledge
On this earth is Universal Spirituality
For World Peace, because there should not be difference
Based on the religion, two people should not fight
For the sake of Nivrutti, which is reaching the Lord.
Nivrutti is related to Lord and is very sacred.
Should one stab another for the sake of this?
In India have you not heard of a Muslim stabbing Hindu
And vice-versa just for the sake of religion?
There is meaning if two fight for wealth etc.,
Which is Pravrutti, Pandavas and Kauravas fought
With each other for wealth, it is justified
Both belong to the same Hindu religion
They did not fight for the religion
It is shameful for the Lord to see such fights!
The same Lord is in two different dresses.
And you both are fighting for the difference in the dress!
You are not recognizing that the same teacher came
And taught the same syllabus in two different languages.
To one class He came in red shirt and to another class
He came in white shirt, you are fighting for His shirts!
You are fighting for the two languages, which differ.
The teacher is the same and the syllabus is the same.
You sit and analyze the contents of His teaching.
You treat the teacher as your Master in your section.
Is He not the Master for the other section also?
Both the sections constitute the whole school.
You say that He is the Master of the whole school.

The school consists off two distinct sections vividly.
If you say that He is the Master of the whole school,
The school must contain only your section, then only
Your statement is right, but the school shows two sections.
Your statements are contradicting each other clearly.
Hindus say that Brahman is the creator, Muslims say
That Allah is creator, Christians say that the creator is
Jehovah, all say that the creation is this entire world.
If Hindus say that Brahman created India, and if
Muslims say that Allah created Arabian countries and
If Christians say that Jehovah created the western countries,
The problem is solved, there can be three Gods together,
Who have created the three parts of the earth separately.
But this is not so, each religion says that their God only
Created the entire world, unfortunately there is one world!
One world only! Come on, all of you sit together here
And give me the final conclusion after debate, otherwise,
The scientists are laughing on all of you! Shame to all!

They criticize that these religions do not have even
The basic logic, which is the fundamental common sense.
Because of you, the greatest God is also mocked by them
They say that the religions are rigid conservatisms!
Even a small boy is putting this question to all of you.
Stop all your discourses and first answer this question.
If you want to say that God created the entire world,
You have to accept that there is one God only always
And that His names are all the above three names.
We see in the world a single person having three names.
If there is one God, He only created this entire world.
All the human beings are invariably His children only.
No Father is partial to a single child and therefore
He must have preached the same knowledge to all
In different languages and in different methodologies
To different levels, this is Universal Spirituality.

Permalink Reply by David Russell Molsey on October 13, 2012 at 12:00pm

I'm going to have to go with no. A Christian denomination (or non-denomination) must be one that is centred around Jesus Christ as Saviour, Lord, and Son of God. Unitarian Universalist churches, or at least the ones I know of, are usually more New Age in spirit allowing for any religion to be relevant and helpful on one's spiritual path, Christianity being one of those religions. Now Unitarians and Universalists are different and are at least provisionally Christian denominations since they usually accept the above about Christ and debate things like the Trinity and how salvation works. 

These are of course just my thoughts on the matter.

Permalink Reply by anil on October 13, 2012 at 12:13pm

The aim of chritians also should to realise the oneness of GOd of all the religions of the world to establish world peace.

Permalink Reply by Elliott Jason Ridgway on October 13, 2012 at 12:40pm

If you take the time to read the King James Bible, prophecy warns us that the global antichrist system will unite all the worlds' religions and nations and economies into one system, and that true Bible-based Christians and Torah-based Jews will not join with them, and we will be persecuted for it... 

Isaiah 57:21 (KJV)

²¹ There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on October 13, 2012 at 12:45pm

we will be persecuted  groomed for it...

FTFY.

Permalink Reply by Will on October 13, 2012 at 12:53pm

Ignoring the trolls, let me just say:  I do use KJV, and I am not convinced of your interpretation -- of Revelation, I assume.  Not that that relates to Unitarianism.

Permalink Reply by Elliott Jason Ridgway on October 13, 2012 at 12:58pm

Are you Amillennialist, Will..? 

I am Pre-millennialist, in that I believe that Jesus will return prior to the Millennium, and establish His Kingdom here on Earth that He will bring with Him... (I am not a Dominionist)... and I believe in a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on Earth... 

Permalink Reply by Will on October 13, 2012 at 1:07pm

My main belief on this is that nobody this side of Heaven knows the right answer.

What I lean toward is that the book of the Revelation is mostly about upcoming Roman persecution of the Church, with a few chapters at the end about the ultimate end of the world. 

It might be interesting to have a thread on the Revelation.

Permalink Reply by Ken D Books on October 15, 2012 at 11:25am

My main belief on this is that nobody this side of Heaven knows the right answer.

Really? Why read it then? If you don't know, I don't know, 'nobody don't know', then what's the purpose of having a relationship with Christ? What's the purpose of reading God's Word to understand Him and His Word??... 

Here again, is a fine example of my problem with christianity today...no one wants an absolute.

 

Will, I'm not trying to "attack" you personally, as has been suggested elsewhere... I'm really curious about this kind of christianity. if God is His Word, and Jesus Christ came to fulfill the word, and His Holy Spirit was sent to reveal that word... then why is it, when someone, says, ..."this is what that means"... there are always others who say just as you did above? It doesn't make sense to me. I'm serious, man. I want to know...I'm curious...and trying to come to some kind of understanding myself....

Permalink Reply by anil on October 13, 2012 at 12:58pm

That is not the correct interpretation. Your interpretations are not correct. How can Christ be against peace when He is the very embodiment of peace! The Anti Christ saga is an inclusion in the bible by fanatics.

Permalink Reply by Elliott Jason Ridgway on October 13, 2012 at 2:50pm

Matthew 10:34   (KJV)

³⁴ Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

 

- Spoken by Jesus

 

Anil... read the Bible before you speak about things which you do not understand...

Permalink Reply by Ken D Books on October 13, 2012 at 5:14pm

Damn! I'm not a Christian, but even I know that is false!

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