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Chivalry

For discussion of the warrior code of Medieval and Renaissance Europe, its sources and how it applies to the modern person.

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Medieval combat books

Started by t-train. Last reply by N. Vest Jul 12, 2013. 8 Replies

Current forms of Chivalry

Started by Joseph L. Rogers. Last reply by Richard Hyde Dec 19, 2011. 33 Replies

Heraldry

Started by t-train. Last reply by Karl Helweg Feb 16, 2011. 5 Replies

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Comment by Sam I. on February 28, 2013 at 11:08am

  Well met Caballeros!

Comment by Robert Dean III on January 8, 2013 at 12:54am

Modern chivalry is useful. Consider though that true chivalry is foreign to us. Medieval chivalry as described in Maurice Keen's Chivalry (Oxford Press) is rooted in Arthurian legend. Opening a door might impress a woman of the 12th century, yet what interested her more was subtle promiscuity. Noble women were kept under lock and key (which is where we get the term from) by the tyrannical husband. The husband was rarely home, leaving the hormonal wife perpetually frustrated. It was considered good sport for a man to sneak into an opposing lord's castle and bed his wife. If the wife was found out, she was killed while the man might receive a brief scolding from a priest followed by palms slapping his back from his peers. Nobility was purchased; heraldries were created. Rituals were performed by the powerful and oaths were sworn. More than often the oaths were forgotten. Now on a more positive note the kinship bonds between knights or knights and their lords were taken very seriously. While Keen's work is exhaustive and slow at times it is an illuminating work that sheds light on the illusion of idealised and romantic chivarly.

Comment by Harry Dresden, Wizard on November 1, 2011 at 8:22am
Just joined because I am the man that opens doors, holds umbrella's, goes out in the rain with the dogs so my fiance doesn't have to, etc. I believe in treating women with more than respect, with Chivalry.
Comment by Karl Helweg on August 29, 2011 at 6:40pm
Comment by Luke Nierenhausen on August 26, 2011 at 8:19am
Well thank you Rhubarb. Interesting find though everyone. A highschool friend who is a girl, was talking with me the other day about a new man she is thinking about dating. She told me what a Gentleman he was and so on and that she had never experienced dating a gentleman before, but that she loved being treated like a lady.
Comment by Rhubarb on August 26, 2011 at 7:58am
Luke, the women that you're dating, or not, certainly appreciate it I'm sure!
Comment by Luke Nierenhausen on August 23, 2011 at 7:20pm
I think we would all agree that a big part of chivalry is learning and being able to defend ourselves and any lady we might be courting. being 21 i am pretty much in the dating seat these days and really enjoy seeing different girls reactions to gentlemanly conduct.
Comment by Rhubarb on August 8, 2011 at 10:49pm

Congratulations Joe!!

I don't know about your predicament other than maybe to say 'Ms.'?

 

I've lived in the South for four years, and while I'm youngish, it's taken a while to get used to it. :)

Comment by Joe Sherry on August 8, 2011 at 8:13pm

I've recently become engaged and want to be a modern man committed to chivalry; it's a great way to show respect. However I have a conundrum! I have a tendency to call all adult women ma'am out of politeness(and men, sir, by the same card) and although I've never offended a man, I have offended some women. I still can't bring myself to break the habit. Advice?

 

Comment by Abraham Z. Castillo on July 9, 2011 at 8:05pm

Hey hey everyone, I joined this group, because I am a practitioner of opening the door for women, for saying "Excuse me", "Thank you", "Please", and the like, for speaking in a manly manner and not toss slanderous slang at everyone that walks by me. I'd be honored if you guys accepted me into your midst.

 

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