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Permalink Reply by Rebekah on February 8, 2012 at 8:08pm

Here's a solution:

http://notalwaysright.com/silence-is-holy/15896

Permalink Reply by Michael S on June 23, 2012 at 9:01pm

In St. Louis, a nice "compromise" can be found at St. Mary of Victories. Sunday Mass is the OF celebrated ad orientem in Latin with chanted propers, and daily Mass is an EF low Mass. It's located near Choteau and 2nd, right next to the Powell Square building.

Permalink Reply by Native Son on June 24, 2012 at 11:04am

For the record, I assisted at a whole lot of "extraordinary form" Masses when I was an altar boy back in the 1960s. 

It seems to me that this thread is bringing out a strong whiff of "Sister Better Than You", and with respect, a fairish amount of apparent arrogance about the form of worship preferred by individuals. 
If you like Latin, fine.  If you don't, that's fine too.

The Mass has never been the monolithic world-wide procedure apparently assumed by some of the more vocal proponents of a full "Return to Latin".

A very brief visit into history will note that in Europe, for several centuries, Latin was the lingua franca of the learned and officialdom, not to mention the ony generally extant written language in most of Europe.  Thus anything crossing local boundaries was conducted in Latin.  Hence (lightbulb moment here!) Latin was the language of the Church, and thus the language of the Church's Rites.

A further historical note is that the rise of Protestant religions coincided with the development of widespread vernacular literacy, facilitated by the European invention of the movable typeset printing press.

 

Sorry for wandering off.

 

Thing is, neither form of Mass is "better" than the other.

Officially, the differences are:

1.  The "Extraordinary Form" is really an "extra ordinary" form, a fully canonically approved and authorized celebration of the Mass.  It's extra ordinary because it's not the ordinary celebration.

2. The Extraordinary Form uses the old annual cycle of readings rather than the triennial cycle used in Ordinary Form.

 

Let's remember Luke 18:9-14 (which was an annual Gospel back in my Latin Mass youth) before getting into a huge sweat over which Mass is "better".

 

Permalink Reply by Nick Lanier on July 11, 2012 at 2:51pm

I go to the TLM.  I have gone to the NO mass, however, I seem to be more in tune to my faith while attending the TLM.  Yes, it is all in Latin.  Yes, the priest always faces the altar.  But there are two things that really speak to me.  First, the focus is on the Eucharist, and the Tabernacle.  Second, Latin is the 'Holy Language' of our faith.  I am getting better at Latin, and my children are more involved in the TLM.  

Permalink Reply by Native Son on July 14, 2012 at 8:34am

To each his own.

Just remember, it's "mawn-e-boos", not "many bus"!  (Alterboys' mispronunciation fo "manibus" being Fr. Ralph's particular problem when teaching us our Latin.)

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