The Appreciation of Motoring


The Appreciation of Motoring

This group is meant for the appreciation of a lost art among men: Motoring. Motoring differs from driving in the sense that it is an enjoyable activity, often precipitated by true gentlemen who have a passion for the open road and what it offers.

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What vehicle do you motor with?

Started by Michael B.. Last reply by Scott L Ferrell Feb 24, 2014. 28 Replies

What vehicle do you motor in?  Do you have a story behind your vehicle?  I still motor in my first car: my 1939 Chevy 2 door Master Deluxe.  My dad and I bought it when I was 13 and worked on it…Continue

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Started by Derek Yoder. Last reply by Michael Dale Rogers Dec 27, 2010. 3 Replies

Just wanted to briefly introduce myself. My name is Derek, and I currently own and motor in my 1954 Chevrolet Del Ray and 1965 Chevy C-10 pick-up. The 65 is more of a workhorse, but I still take her…Continue

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Comment by Michael Dale Rogers on July 7, 2011 at 1:22pm

Well-- this thread is becoming vintage which isn't bad! I BTW roadraced a 7, now am restoring two olde formula one's so I'm aware what you're talking about! This doesn't preclude a Camaro a Baracuda or a mustang GT. The Camaro has been titled the best handling amurikun periodically, will go around 150 ( useless) etc. If someone told me I had to drive an amurikun car as my only one, I would put a z28 /302/5 speed/4WDisks high on the list, nothing against Fords and MOPARS, I have them also.

One can drive at your and the cars limit just as well in a Sprite as in an AC  ( have both) the former is safer and much less expensive, If you'll fit in and want a much better Lotus than a 7, buy an Elan or Europa TCS!

Comment by Scott Macmillan on May 30, 2011 at 9:27am

A pleasant weekend draws to a close; Saturday was the local gun show, yesterday an all day cruise at a local drive in, and today my '51 Bentley comes out for a gentle drive along the Blue Ridge Parkway.

On a less happy note, I have decided to sell my Morgan 4/4 roadster, the subject of a nearly completed body off restoration.  Over $40k spent thus far, and it could be yours for a trifling $25k or perhaps less with a tempting trade.  Full details & photos to those who may be interested. 

Comment by Alexsander Mausheim on March 7, 2011 at 1:12pm

Hello, Jim! Welcome to the community. I have spent much time on the western shores of the Cheaspeake- one of my favorite drives was from DC south through Waldorf to to St. Mary's City, then north to Pax river, up and over the Solomons Bridge, continuing to Annapolis and return via the back roads through Laurel.  A great 2-lane drive pretty much the entire way.


Jakob- I do have a friend with not one, but two Maxwell runabouts. One a 1910, the other a 1911. Wonderful cars! (However, it is rather gauche to be seen in one without some attempt at period dress.)

As for myself, I am considering building a Morgan-style three-wheeler with carbide headlights, and lots of brass and copper shiny bits- or perhaps the wonderful Pembroke Brooklands. Picture either of these with Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang boattail bodywork, and you can see where I would like to go with this.


Comment by Jim Govoni on February 16, 2011 at 7:45am
hi, brand newbie to the site & group. I collect and restore. I live in Maryland if anyone else is close by I'd love to talk cars.  Jim
Comment by Jakob P. G. on January 3, 2011 at 3:06am
Has anyone here had the oppurtunity to motor in a Brass Era motor car? What's it like?
Comment by Harris on October 12, 2010 at 12:38am
I really enjoy motoring. Unfortunately, I don't have a Model A to drive around in (which would be my choice), but I do enjoy going on leisurely drives around the country in my 1980 Jeep CJ-5, best enjoyed sans top and with the windshield folded down. Very fun and very relaxing! I wish I had a 1946 CJ-2A.
Comment by Pete Ness on September 7, 2010 at 5:12pm
I am so jealous of my brother. He just got back from England with a group of businessmen who toured the Lotus complex. He got to drive the Evora and Elise, both as driver and with Lotus test drivers and a former F1 driver. They also toured the museum and got close up to T25's and a few other top Lotus race cars from their heyday. Three members of the group ordered Evoras they were so impressed.
Comment by Michael Dale Rogers on August 31, 2010 at 12:45am
OK, Greg, I understand-- the world has moved on. That's why I'm selling off my Porsche 928 A/T and my Isuzu 4wd with all the mod cons. and screwing a 58 TR-10 saloon together. True, it won't go 140+ but neither do we almost ever. Actually a plastic Pachaderm (corvette) is a really great car as is it's brother the Camaro. I have a 85 and a 83 Z-28 respectively and they are world class cars as far as performance if lacking the Nice burl Walnut and such. Go to a Camaro/Mustang/Firebird race and you'll be impressed! the rules are such that you can't spend big bux for your racer.
The 85 Vetts are very cheap and will complete with almost anything else on the street!--AND you'll fit! The F body Mustang GT's are similar!
For those, they're investments in that I can't drive them like they like to on the street and don't want to spend the $$ for tyres etc. for racing them.
Comment by Pete Ness on August 30, 2010 at 5:13pm
I'm sorry, but in my mind, there is something wrong with an automatic in a sports car (or a real SUV). Reminds me of a recent anecdote. A friend bought an automatic Audi R8, the automatic being for his wife's sake. When their daughter's (obviously well brought up) boyfriend asked why it wasn't manual, the wife reponded a bit indignantly, "Why not? It sounds just as good either way when you gun the throttle". I love women who appreciate the difference.
Comment by Greg Bohnstedt on August 30, 2010 at 11:56am
Good Morning,
Ahh, I see that I touched a nerve made in the crucial, car appreciation development years. Understandable. For me and my buddies it would have been someone buying a Corvette or Porsche with (shudder) an automatic in it. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but that signaled a definite NON-car guy. Forgive the comparison, but I remember my Dad saying that he remembered when wrenching, chopping and shaving and lead sledding were a requirement if you wanted to keep your car guy card. By the time I got interested in cars, my dad had sold the '57 Chevy and the Sunbeam Alpine and had given up his automotive dreams for more academic pursuits. When I was 16, in 1978, budding car guys wrenched on cars but the addition of required emissions equipment made the level of commitment fairly significant. If I'd started with the wonder of Webers, I'm sure I'd be more inclined to wrench my own.
The simplicity of the 7 and its ilk really appeals to me. Unfortunately, when I sat in an early Caterham (RHD, with the Ford Kent engine with Crossflow heads, all 135 HP of it) it fit well side to side. But, I sit taller than my cousin who is 6'7", and I have short legs. The dratted steering wheel is mounted so low, I had to force my legs around it and couldn't use it. I hope that one of the other 7 style cars might be more accommodating. Alexsander had questioned why I didn't buy an original rather than a replica, I wasn't badmouthing so much as indicating that I didn't really want to learn the ins and outs and try to find parts for cars that are as old as I am. The fact is that these are the cars I want. Besides initial cost, I'm assuming that finding a good mechanic will be easier with a late model domestic V-8 or, in the case of the 7, a V-6 or a Duratec 4.

Your point about Madison avenue hit the nail on the head for me as well. Last year at a work outing, several colleagues and I exited a trendy eaterie in Scottsdale. Valet-parked conspicuously in front was the latest Bentley Continental Flying Spur. The whole group moved up to ogle it and ooh and ahh. I looked past it into the parking lot and noticed an immaculate '57 Bel Air convertible, red over white. I'd take that cherry Bel Air any day over the Bentley. Parked in a single, regular parking space, it knocked me out and I realized something I'd always known. Don't bother to buy what the Man is selling, because it will change tomorrow. Find a classic that fits your style and make it your own.

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