Hi everyone, I'm trying to find a gun for home defense for my mom. My mom has never handled a gun and I have very little experience with them myself. We are trying to find a gun that is not going to break the bank, and one that my mom, who is a very small woman, can aim and handle relatively easily. Could yall make some recommendations?
I apology! I was trying to be as gentile as possible and address his case in general. Most women don't have the hand strength the average man does, and in my wife case as well she has some arthritic problems causing her not to be able to work larger caliber semi automatic pistols.
I have had this discussion with several people. For those that shoot a lot a pump shotgun or automatic pistol is fine. For those that don't shoot much I like to keep it simple. An over under shotgun is easy to load, easy to shoot and easy to tell if it is loaded. You have one big lever on top and when it is open it is easy to see if it is loaded or not. For a woman of small size a 20 gauge double or a .410 will not be punishing. If they are afraid of the gun hurting then they won't touch it. The users will need to put a couple of boxes through the gun just to get used to it.
Regarding pistols. I don't recommend automatics for anyone that isn't going to shoot regularly. A revolver is simple to load and simple to shoot. I had a Glock once, it was difficult for me to rack the slide and I did not like the lack of safeties. A US Army type Colt 1911 has 3 safeties so it can be carried with one in the pipe, safely. The Glock on the other hand only had one trigger safety, ask Plaxico Burress how well that works. As to pistol calibers, 38 and 9 MM are basically the same size. The 38 Special has been stopping evil-doers for over 100 years. There are a lot of guns that shoot the 38 Special and the ammunition is available everywhere.
Wow. Plaxico Burress is a prime example or benchmark one should use when making decisions.
Personally, here is a list of just a few things I would not ask Plaxico to help me with:
3)Hell, any homework grade level kindergarten and up
5)How to speak the English language
I don't find it shocking he doesn't have the capability to handle a weapon. Here is a list of a few other items I don't think he has the capability to operate safely:
4)easy bake oven
If someone is dim enough they will find a way to harm themselves or someone else with what ever firearm the get their hands on. Glock didn't make Plaxico stupid. He was stupid long before he ever touched a Glock.
A couple of decades or so back, one of the gun magazines did a test article on household self defense firearms. Their analysis recommended a short barrelled shotgun loaded with low base shells loaded with #7 or # 8 birdshot. Their reasoning was the birdshot , at inside the house close ranges was dense enough to give any unarmored villain a very bad day, while at the same time not penetrating or piercing too many walls.
Check the news about the number of children who are killed or hurt by 9mm rounds [that penetrated exterior house walls]. That's why limited projectile penetration is a good thing for the person with limited weapons handling skills.
Where does she live? Is it a big/small house/apartment?
If a gun requires training and fear of technical things, then buy her a good-sized dog that will also provide company, exercise, loyalty, as well as an alarm and a sharp pair of teeth.
I have dealt with enough hostile domestic environments, and from what I have seen, intruders are more likely to freeze when Rover comes barreling towards them at high speed with teeth bared than when they think grandma is packing.
Most intruders are not dog trained. Advantage grandma.
Revolver or shotgun are the traditional things to go with. I like shotguns if your barricaded in a room or comming down a long hallway however if your going around corners someone could easily grab the barrel.
I really like a revolver, simple to operate, no slide like an automatic which is nice if you wind up wrestilng with the intruder you dont want a slide slicing your hand open if struggling for the gun which wont happen with a revolver. A revolver can also be left long periods of time without being cared for and still fire. Lastly its small and compact so you can go around corners, hold it while holding a flashhlight, etc
My fiance has no trouble with any of my handguns except my 44s. She even does fine with heavy 357 loads. That being said, her "go-to" is a Beretta 92. Good choice in my humble opinion. 2x15 round magazines, with a hallway for a firing lane. The big thing is that we have plans in place for fecal matter hitting the fan. I'm a big fan of pump scatterguns. A pump being racked transcends all language barriers! Buckshot doesn't over penetrate. Low recoil target loads are available for practice. Many pumpguns are easy to swap a hunting barrel onto for bird hunting. Very good choice. Another option I am warming up to is pistol caliber carbines. Much easier to aim than a handgun, but still doesn't over penetrate.
You both should take a firearms orientation/training course first. Look for one where they have a variety of firearms you can shoot or go to a range where you can rent them. If neither of you have much expereince it is well worth the cost of the course. Also "cheap" may translate to unreliable/difficult to operate.
A pistol grip Mossberg Defender type shotgun in 20 ga. is a good choice or a handgun in a .22, .32 or 38/357 caliber is another good choice. S&W, Ruger and Colt are all good choices. Don't have enough experience with Taurus but a guy I know has a Taurus Judge and loves it.
There are much eating of shrooms going on in this thread...
Obtain a copy of Massad Ayoobs "In the gravest extreme",its old but good and a serious primer as to mindset but outdated on the weapons bit. Look into the legal bits in your mothers jurisdiction. Give your mother a good class on self defence for Christmas or do it as a joint venture (you may need to look around for this). It should cover mindset, legality, tactics and shooting.
Contemplate on your experiences.
Then get a gun. :-)
A 9mm or a .38 should be within reasonable parameters. The longer the barrel, the less recoil, the shorter the barrel, the more recoil and noise. My best recommendation is that you and your mother find a gun range where you can try out a variety of weapons and see what she's more comfortable with and develops a better feel for. Also, she must decide between a semi-automatic and a revolver (revolvers generally have a harder trigger pull, but they never jam if properly loaded, whereas there is always a chance for a jam with a semi-automatic). Your mother will need to feel safe and confident with whatever firearm she chooses, and a good rule of thumb is to always keep in mind that safety and proper maintenance are just as important as being able to fire a weapon.
Recoil is related to mass, not barrel length. A lightweight pistol with a 6" barrel will recoil more than a heavier pistol with a 4" barrel.
Barrel length, indeed, will determine the muzzle flash. If the gun powder does not fully burn in the shorter barrel, much of it will burn outside the barrel. Thus... The flash.