“The man who makes everything that leads to happiness depends upon himself, and not upon other men, has adopted the very best plan for living happily. This is the man of moderation, the man of manly character and of wisdom.” Plato

Hello and good day to you all.

I would like to present the subject of discussion (a very popular one of late);

Sexuality. To be precise, does this affect a man's level of masculinity in your

opinion? My opinion is that it does not and that a gentleman is defined almost

solely on his character in mind and in conduct. Please, offer your thoughts.

I feel (and anyone may disagree) that the matter of social equality between

those of varying sexualities is a highly important social subject of the times. 

Note: I have seen and replied to a discussion on this topic and

would like to see some open-minded, civil discussion on this.

[ Please, no insults, aggression or profanity. We are gentlemen. ]

- With regards,  J.S.

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In answer to your question.... no. It doesnt effect anything. Good or bad.

Just had to say though....
"I will not permit insults, aggression or profanity. We are gentlemen."

Really? What the fuck are you gonna do to stop it? Not a single damn person on this site has said this is the art of "gentlemanliness". It is the art of Manliness... we are men. Not necessarily gentleman, and you do not have the power to permit of stop me from saying whatever the fuck kind of shit I damn well please.

I agree with you on the topic.

In response to your footnote, this is my thread so I simply assumed

you would understand and respect my request in replying.

This is basic etiquette, Mr. Castus.

- J.S.

Please refrain from using profanity or aggression = basic etiquette.


I will not permit = ultimatum.  And, without the authority to enforce that ultimatum, it is meaningless.

I assumed an understanding of the "house rules" of a discussion host.

Assuming is never a good idea.  


I trust that you understand the difference between asking and demanding?  Words matter.

I thought I had approached the subject introduction correctly. Perhaps, my mind is obscure and thus there is a miscommunication with the word "permit". 

Yes, "permit" was the issue.  Saying that you will not permit something, is stating that you have the authority to enforce it.  You do not.  As Lucius said, this site is owned by Brett McKay.  *He* has that authority.


In your position as a user of the forum, and the originator of this thread, a request would have been appropriate.  And polite.  "Please refrain from" would have been a much better choice than "I will not permit."


A question.  Your use of language is extremely formal.  Is this how you normally speak?  If not, then why are you being so formal?  Just speak plainly...it's usually more effective, anyway.


Is english your first language?  If not, then the communication issues would be more understandable.

"Is english your first language?"

That is a good point. Considering his comment in the Texas group about missing [the greatest place on Earth]... I had assumed he was from here. But his profile says he's in Taiwan.... A language barrier would explain alot.

I was raised in Texas on a farm and am currently working abroad (was married in Taiwan).

Thank you for your input; I appreciate the insight in the matter and will consider this in future posts. I am generally formal unless familiar, yes. I issue the same level of respect across the board until I truly know someone.

Except this isn't your house. This is Brett McKays house. And his rules apply. Not yours.

Alright then; your point is made. I thank you for pointing out

a grammatical error on my part.


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