No, no, I *didn't* argue against a demarcation between boys and men. As much as I've promoted the concept of initiation into manhood, and recognition of the fact of manhood in the young, on this site, of course I didn't! I argued against the idea that segregation of *men* into social groups based on age is traditional, rather than modern. In traditional societies, once you're a man, you're a man.
My passion about this is that I think the new way, not knowing what it takes to be a man, having a sort of moving goalposts and no clear demarcation -- is too discouraging to the young. It sure was to me. I had to wait till 38 to claim that title, and that's a shame.
I still have to read the thread, but thought I would chime in:
Start polishing your appearance... Meaning no more team jerseys, baseball caps EVERYDAY, sneakers with EVERYTHING.
Expand the group of people you associate with... get some different kind of friends.
Start reading and learning about life... learn about finances and economy, leadership, communication skills, etc.
Get some more hobbies outside of your computer and video games, get more social.
If your a man and one of your goals in life is to settle down and have a family, well, then by 30-35 you should have a serious relationship that might turn into marriage.
Stop wearing things like Ed Hardy, and other t-shirts and things aimmed at a younger audience... you do not want to look like Bret Micheals.
Hopefully you should have a steady income by now or atleast know what you are doing to keep things stable financially.
Limit video games to an hour a day if at all (but I knwo we are a different generation)
No more childish clothing FOR REAL NO ED HARDY NOW
Polished appearance: sophisticated elegant, etc.
More in control of their emotions
No more strip clubs, I think this is pretty tacky, even after 30... but in your 20's I guess you just want to see women :P
Dude iam 38 and still love acting like a teenager with my son of 18 he keeps me young and i help him grow older every year a little wiser.... my wife asks me when are you going to grow up and i say "Hey i make great money and work hard to support this family, i make sure everything is taken care of and everyone in the family is happy" if thats not grown then screw it.....You are as old as you feel and i feel like a teen I kayak i drag race my 1965 impala.... and dont have erectile dicfunction.... My advise is to act like a young man at any age because living your life by silly rules like" iam too old for that" and you are going to miss out....
As a teen I wore my hat backwards now I am 26 and only wear a hat to the game. So as I look back it seems immature because I was so immature. Naturally I associate immaturity and a backwards ball cap with each other. I would have a hard time taking you seriously with a backward ball cap on. I do understand it's sentimental value to you and if that is comfortable wear it how you want.
Removal of headgear is an expression of respect, hence removal in church, at meals, tipping your hat to a lady or upon entering into somebody's home or personal office. Hats may remain on in stores or common use areas such as malls, bank lobbies and the like.