Came across this. In a nutshell it suggests that without ladies, you will never have gentlemen, which also happens to be the blog post title.

There is a lot to be said for the opinion, and a lot to be said against as well. Thoughts?

(I'll add mine in a bit. Got kids to taxi across the nation! Just wanted to get the ball rolling)

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Beauty refers to the look of the thing. There are both beautiful bodies & beautiful actions, doings. I don't exactly see the problem, the way you phrase it.

Another thing--the good is not the opposite of wrong, bad is the opposite of good, & right is the opposite of wrong. Doing right & wrong is a matter of justice, not goodness.

I would call vulgarity in a child ugly regardless of to whom I was speaking. It would be clear though that the words used were the ugliness and not the person speaking them.

As for cloths, my daughter has lots more than my son and always did. The reason for that was girl would actually wear her things. Boy would wear the same thing until it cried for washing, move on to set two of cloths which he would wear until it too begged for mercy then back into set one he went.

It's not that swearing by a boy is "cute" while it's "ugly" by a girl. It's that it's wrong from a child of either gender, but only identified that way to the boy. The girl gets a mixed message.

As for toddlers and clothes, it's really tough - what's natural and what's conditioning. I'm sure baby girls receive more clothes as gifts than baby boys. So the newborn girl gets fresh clothes every day, while the boy gets repeats. Regardless, the pattern of valuing the appearance of the girl, and equating it with moral worth, continues in dangerous ways through adulthood.

For me it's the opposite of much of the discussion here;

I normally don't have enough testosterone to even raise my voice at someone.

Instead of the ladies in my life causing me to tone it down a notch, it's the other way with me.

My wife and girls make me want to be more of a man, to be the man in their lives they deserve, as they are women and girls to me.

Without them I don't know where I'd be.

Well said.

I would liken at least in my case to how it is between my girlfriend and I. since we are both in school for the same major, subtly I feel a sense of competition that drives me to do well. In part to prove I can be a provider.

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