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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on December 13, 2012 at 2:58pm

i just see my stay as a massive gift as is me keeping the house up my parentes want me to do well in school tho i really doubt a job whould hurt that i figuer as long as your another adult and not expect being waited after i see littel cause for disrespect your tradeing a home for labor i assuer you i do most of the up keep. historicaly bachalors lived at home till marrage to long for me but logisticaly senseable.

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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on December 13, 2012 at 3:06pm

i dont really see the mess in the kitchen as personal disrespect more so as disrespect for the labor that go's into keeping a kitchen. like breaking the wall behind the bridge builder its just no giveing a carp about that space my dad even partialy agrees.

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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on December 13, 2012 at 3:08pm

the wall behind the wall builder.

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Permalink Reply by Rebekah on December 13, 2012 at 3:28pm

Have you ever lived on your own? Keeping up a home is a constant job, depending on how you do it. You can do "all the laundry," but there's still the clothes you're wearing. You can clean the kitchen and do all the dishes, but by then it'll be time for the next meal. That's just how it is.

Some householders can get on a schedule so they rarely need to spend hours at a time housekeeping, and when they do, it's scheduled. In my experience, those people have an extraordinary amount of both self-control and scheduling control over their lives.

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Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on December 13, 2012 at 5:00pm

Mrs. Danger does all the housework in our home. She has a very regimented schedule. She spends about 2 hrs a day every day except Sunday which she rests.

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Permalink Reply by Rebekah on December 13, 2012 at 5:12pm

Are those 2 straight hours, or some in the morning (e.g., making beds, fixing breakfast), some during the day (most of the cleaning), and some in the evening (fixing dinner, washing up)? Presumably, she fixes dinner, takes a break to eat it, then washes up. I imagine such spread-out schedules makes for less total time on chores, because no project ever gets very big, as StaggerLee described, but they're not available to everyone - especially where you're sharing the space with more than one other adult, and not sharing meals.

Even for someone working full-time, 2 hours every evening cleaning instead of watching TV isn't tons, but it might not be enough if your only 2 hour are in the evening.

[Not being snarky, not trying to celebrate under-appreciated housework. I honestly find the subject fascinating. I was surprised how much time I spent on housework when I lived alone. Then surprised on the adjustments necessary when I didn't have all that time when I started seriously dating. Then surprised again when my husband moved in. And now doing the newlywed standard-setting and chore-dividing.]

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Permalink Reply by Nick H on December 13, 2012 at 5:12pm

No. As my father used to say about the golden rule. He who makes the gold, makes the rules. You live in your family's house, you follow their rules. If you are unhappy with your lot, tough shit.

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Permalink Reply by David F. on December 18, 2012 at 2:40pm

Simple Clean up the kitchen and take photos.

Then before you clean it at the end of the day take photos.

Do this for a week.  

Meet with everyone and layout the photos.  Then the people will see it.

It is the odd thing about photos.

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