What is the most admirable profession for a man to have? The best profession that a man can do in life?

Is it to be a creative poet, an expert architect, a professional baseball player, a skilled fighter pilot? Or maybe a ruthless entrepreneur, a successful gangster, a hard working janitor, a nimble and dexterous neurosurgeon?

What I mean by most admirable, is a total combination of the following criteria (not in order of importance, considered equally):

1) Difficulty in attaining the position. 

2) Level of training or amount of experience or expertise required to execute the activities of the job.

3) Exceptional moral qualities required or implied by the job, such as courage, adventurousness, daring, toughness, compassion, work ethic, etc.

4) Exceptional physical qualities, such as strength, agility, stamina, and athleticism generally. 

5) Exceptional mental qualities required, such as logical analysis, creativity, memory, abstract reasoning, etc.

6) General level of social esteem associated with the job. The amount of respect, regard, or envy given to those who hold the position.   

I know some may say to each their own, and it is character that counts more than a man's job, but my question has little to do with a man's character (I posted a discussion topic addressing this question in another section of the forum), but rather with the question of what is the best possible profession a man could have or strive for in society.

 

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Best I can tell from the way you've framed the question, the answer you're looking for is Navy SEAL (or other comparably elite special forces detachment -- SFOD-D, British SAS, etc.).  Exclusive.  Impossibly difficult to qualify.  Extreme training.  Exceptional courage, toughness, work ethic, and patience.  Extensive physical and intellectual problem solving requirements.  And, pretty much the pinnacle of social esteem ... aside from the enemy who wants you dead, and a few wacko peaceniks that think you're a murdering fascist.

Other than something like that, you're not going to find all that many professions that require the mix of intellect and physicality that you're asking for.  Most intellectual jobs aren't all that physical, and vice versa.  Most professors aren't qualified to be adventurer archaeologists, for instance.

Truthfully, this is a matter of opinion, not of objective truth.  Its like asking 'what's the best movie'?  There is no answer.  Navy SEAL is probably as close as you'll come, though.


JB

"And, pretty much the pinnacle of social esteem ... aside from the enemy who wants you dead, and a few wacko peaceniks that think you're a murdering fascist."

Wacko peacenik contribution:  While we're setting up men who kill people for a living because somebody told them to as the ideal, I think it would be only fair to include the honorable profession of Mafia Hit Man.  I know, different uniform.  But shares a lot of those qualities. 

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Wacko peacenik contribution:  While we're setting up men who kill people for a living because somebody told them to as the ideal, I think it would be only fair to include the honorable profession of Mafia Hit Man.  I know, different uniform.  But shares a lot of those qualities.

In the sister thread to this one, I noted that wackos, outliers and the ass-backward make consensus a lousy way to seek truth.  Thanks for the example.

I doubt we have enough common ground to make a debate worthwhile.  Your post speaks for itself, anyway.  There are guys you look to for insight, and guys you look to for a counter-indicator.  Seems you're the latter.  I'd be more concerned if we agreed.


JB

My post is obviously tongue-in-cheek (though I was the one accused of having no sense of humor).  Soldiers are an unfortunate necessity.  Unfortunate.  Navy Seals and other elite corps represent the pinnacle of the soldier's art.

But is Navy Seal the "ideal profession for a man"?  IMHO, not even close.  No disrespect to them intended, but I'd rather my son set someone like Jonas Salk, or Albert Einstein, or Leonardo DaVinci, or Thomas Edison, or Alexander Graham Bell... as his idols, his conception of the ideal man, their work, the ideal profession.  These are men who changed the world. 

I can just imagine this conversation with my son - "Well, son, if you can't cut it as an elite corps soldier, maybe you could settle for a life of mediocrity as the man who discovers a cure for cancer...  After all, not everyone can be the best..."

And yes, it's a silly debate to get into - it only emphasizes the very fundamental differences in our values.  I don't know the OP.  But if he's a young man trying to find his way, it is good for him to hear something other than the best thing a man can be is a soldier. 

SEALs aren't assassins.  While running and gunning is the most exciting part of their job, and gets the most airtime, it's a very minor part.

Well said

Besides military, I always thought Bush Pilots where pretty darn manly.

To be one it's very competitive, you make very little money. You fly where other people don't and fly in some of the hardest places to do so in the world. Have to gauge your situation very quickly and really know what your doing. A fair amount of respect but some people think of most of them as glorified taxi drivers others keep pushing it and gain a reputation. Then again from what I hear Bush pilot is more a title than an occupation.... 

*edit* 

Oh and your doing it in a small plane if something break or goes wrong.... good luck!

The one that pays the bills and feeds the family.  

Probably ought to delete that from my web history.  Heh.  Thanks a lot.


JB

'Welcome,
I always post this in career-related posts, lol.

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