I'm sure this is as controversial as the Bow Tie discussion...but what's the deal with square toe shoe hatred?  Seems like the fashion experts hate them, but when you go to the store, that is all they seem to have.  I am trying to by a new pair of nice business casual shoes and all I can find are square toe and frumpy-looking cap toes.  I have two nice pairs of square toe shoes and really like them, but I don't want to commit a fashion faux pau or just look outdated.  They aren't chopped-off looking, but I definitely like the look of them compared to anything else I see in the stores.  So, are square toes still OK?

I have two pair of these (Black and Brown) and love them.

 http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/alfani-shoes-salut-oxfords?ID=52...

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I have a pair and don't particularly care for them much, but as you said, it's all that was available in the store.  I plan to replace them soon with a pair of Allen Edmonds Wilberts.  I'm not sure what your budget is, but if we believe in buying quality that will last, definitely look into the AEs.  I've been doing as most do and buying cheap shoes only to replace them every 9 months or so.  This time I'm taking the plunge and shouldn't need new casual shoes for a few decades.

Shoes look fine to me.  Planning to hang around with any "fashion experts"?

 

I doubt anybody notices your shoes.  Those that notice probably don't keep up with "fashion experts", and won't know or care if they're 'outdated' (who decides this crap anyway?).

 

They're shoes.  They look fine.  Vaya con Dios.

 

JB

That is kind of my attitude.  I just retired from the military and am entering the world of civilian culture and dress.  Just want to make sure I'm at least in the ballpark and not committing some heinous clothing offense with my square toe shoes.    

I don't think they have square-toed shoes as part of the dress blues in any military branches in the US (And certainly not in the Marine Corps, methinks), so I would use that as my yard stick for standard.

Any way, I had a barber (a real sharp guy, and a straight shooter too) who once told me you can tell a man by his shoes. Maybe most people don't pay attention to shoes, but I do. I still can't tell a man by his shoes, but I can say that I find square-toed shoes very unflattering on a man. After someone started calling them Frankenstein shoes, that's all I've seen.

If Andy Dufresne saw the value in an excellent pair of shoes, I do too, and I wouldn't dare class square-toed's among them, personally.

That may change as they are, at least what I've heard, allowing turbans and beards.  Lord knows what will be next.  So much for unit cohesion.

Square-toed shoes tend to look clunky and inelegant.  They are also associated with cheapness, since they are found more often on cheap shoes.  However, these are trends, not inflexible characteristics.  Square-toed shoes can look just fine and be of good quality.

My boots are square-toed ... and not inexpensive.  But, if I had a problem with "clunky and inelegant", I probably wouldn't wear boots.

 

JB

If you love them, get them.

Keep the polished and boom they are part of YOUR style.

Seems like you're having some culture shock moving from military to civilian.  You know how 90% of performing well in the military is showing up at the right place at the right time wearing the right clothes?  Not so much civilian world.  Every part of that is fluid.  The number one praise civilian employers have for prior service members is, "They show up on time".  Why is that the number one praise?  Because civilians don't.

Really the only part of civilian work which matters is doing your job and doing it well.  Every other deficiency you may have, or think you may have, can be excused if you're a competent and hard worker.  Clothing only matters in so much as you dress to the role you play.  If you're in sales, don't dress like a construction worker.  If you're in construction, don't dress like a lawyer.

Fashion experts like things which look feminine.  Pointy shoes look like girl shoes.  Or worse, European.  That's why square toe shoes are sold, despite what fashion experts like.  Wear what is comfortable for you, and fits the occupation you're in.  I will reiterate this, stay away from anything First Sergeant deems "appropriate civilian attire".

You 'da man, Shane.  Good stuff.    

Hey buddy,

Take the advice that people on fashion blogs or forums say with a grain of salt. Many of these people have boat loads of money or actually don't believe what they say because they want to sound like they are in the know but might not actually follow the "rules" of fashion.

I think the reason many dislike them is they are not traditional and perhaps look a little less casual than formal? I am not exactly sure where the hatred comes from. I personally don't care for the square-toe because I feel it is too boxy, but for some people it works.

I would suggest in the future getting a nice pair of black, cap-toed oxfords. You really can't go wrong with that. Macy's generally carries an affordable one from Bostonian.

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