Im probably just venting, which i am,

BUT...

I just had my pay review with my boss, he gave me a 8.5% increase, which i shouldn't complain about.

BUT

He did mention earlier in the year how much the guy next to me makes and that its embarrassing because he literally does nothing. He said to me that he would fix it when it came to our review.  At that stage he was making about 11 grand more than me. the gap has closed to about 8 grand now, with his rise included...

I don't mean to whinge, as i know there are people who wouldn't make as much as i do, but it annoyed me so much that im struggling to concentrate. its really put me off. I was under the impression that my boss was going to match or beat his income.

I don't mean to pick to the guy next to me, he is nice enough, but he has literally has DONE NOTHING for the whole year. I have done so much for this place its silly. the guy next to me has probably early onset dementia, is not computer literate and people in the workshop want to run when they see him coming because of the irrelevant stuff he talks about. example if you were in a meeting with representatives from America, Head office do you think that telling everyone halfway through the meeting you let everyone know that once you bought a steak and cooked it and it was nice...  this actually happened.

My boss has left town for 2 days. Im going to head back in and have a chat on Friday when he gets back. Do you think i am just whinging?

FYI the local economy is going gang busters, there is money everywhere. Im in Australia.

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If you do, be sure to discuss the merits of what you do and the value you bring. Do NOT mention the other guy at all. 

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Don't worry about what anyone else makes, focus on you.

8.5% is a nice raise, double or more a common cost of living rise. Many folks struggle to get a .50/hr raise, so consider yourself lucky.

While I believe it is illegal in the US for an employer to discuss the pay details of another employee, this is a prime example of why it's just not that bright legal or not.  Sorry for your circumstance, I have been in the same spot but, I just try to remember that there is probably someone who thought that same way about me.

I work in Australia, Employers aren't supposed to tell you this. I also look after everything for my department. Manpower, IT, Scheduling, Planning, Administration, Continuous Improvement, Safety and Budgets. I can see how much people get paid. i don't have authority to change it though.

Nor should you talk about it with anyone.

I don't think that's illegal.  Stupid.  Bad form.  Counterproductive.  But, I've never heard of it being illegal to reveal an employee's pay.

 

JB

In California, employee pay is not discoverable without special notice to the employee or special court order. I do not know if there is a statutory protection to this information outside the litigation/discovery context. It sure would be kind of silly if what you can't learn with a subpoena you can learn just by asking.

I would argue - rather, I have argued - that employees have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their salary information, making disclosure of their salary actionable.

[non-lawyer translation available on request]

Im in Australia.

I think the point has been missed.

I was cranky about my raise,  in a very good economy, and people are leaving our department for another for better pay. I like where i work i will take it to my boss and see how things go.

In saying that i will walk in with ammunition as always.

Nothing against the person i was comparing too, just a list of all the jobs currently undertaken by me.

I was just replying to JB. That's why it's in full lawyer-speak.

i also noticed a few grammar\spelling errors, i was venting. sorry....

One should always mention one's steak eating experience to an American.  Regardless of setting or status.

I once bought a steak, it was nice. i also have steaks in the freezer. I also come from the Beef Capital of Australia "apparently" even though its fast becoming the Mining capital of Australia...

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