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Permalink Reply by Nick H on February 17, 2013 at 8:58am

Switch to espresso?

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Permalink Reply by Michael D. Denny on February 17, 2013 at 11:52am

You may not be getting the water hot enough when you run it through the press. 

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Permalink Reply by Todd Serveto on February 17, 2013 at 1:56pm

I'm sure there must be a misunderstanding--two cups of water is 16 fluid ounces---and you use FOURTEEN ounces of BEANS?  As in, nearly a pound---for two cups?  Are you making coffee or mocha candy?  :-)

Get a Colombian brand of coffee--it's a little more expensive, but it's worth it.  Richer...just better all the way around.  Grind the beans a tad more coarsely for French press, but don't feel like you have to use a French press.  Percolated coffee (and even automatic drip coffee) are also good.  Don't be afraid to try different "off" brands, particularly if you're having them ground, and use just a tad more coffee than you think you need (heaping measures rather than level, for example). 

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Permalink Reply by Shane on February 17, 2013 at 2:11pm

There's a few things:

1) Starbucks = shit.  It's like McDonald's, it's shit, but it's a known quantity of shit you can get everywhere.

2) Starbucks coffee is generally espresso, and not coffee.  Coffee has more water.  Have you ever tried coffee from Starbucks?

3)  Starbucks has a tendency to burn their beans, and under draw their espresso.  It's going to be more bitter and acidic than home brewed coffee.

4) Different beans produce different tastes and different strengths.  Experiment with your beans some.  Robusto beans are more bitter than Arabica beans, but have more caffeine.  Most store brands/Folgers/Maxwell House use Robusto.  Most  whole beans bought from a coffee shop are Arabica.  When I was able to buy beans I got 2/1, Arabica/Robusto mix. More caffeine than Arabica and a smoother taste than Robusto.

5)  You should brew  your coffee to taste.  Acidic/oily/bitter != strong, it just means it tastes like shit.  It should take away your jitters, but at some point adding coffee to the pot becomes a waste of coffee and makes it taste bad.

6) Different brew methods are going to produce different tastes.  Espresso draws water straight through packed grounds.  The French Press steeps the coffee like tea.  Drip through a filter removes some of the oils. Your mass consumption coffee, from cafeterias for instance, are usually brewed in a percolator.  Percolated coffee for mass consumption suffers from a few problems; it's basically drip coffee without the filter, they're usually set up by non-coffee drinkers who dump half a pound of store coffee in them, they're brewed at 5am and let sit all day while the water boils off.  Each single act will leave the coffee bitter and acidic, put all three together and you get what you get.

7) Different grinds are also going to produce different tastes.  Play with the size of your grind.

8)  Using a Press you can steep to strength.  The longer you let sit before pressing, the stronger it will be.  I use two table spoons in my press, and let sit a little longer.  But, I'm not in an area I can waste coffee by just adding more.

9) If you like a stronger taste, try a French Roast.  French Roast = roasted twice = burned beans = tastes like shit.  Thanks France.

10) Don't ever use caffeinated water to brew coffee.

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Permalink Reply by Buffalo Bill on February 18, 2013 at 1:25pm

Couldn't have said it better.

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Permalink Reply by Nick H on February 17, 2013 at 5:54pm

I think Starbucks gives you Cafe Americano when you order a coffee as opposed to drip coffee like you'd get from a diner. At least that's what they do here in Ireland.

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Permalink Reply by Ratchit on February 18, 2013 at 1:24pm

Thank you all for the good response! Really informative.

Also, clearly I hadn't had my morning coffee when I made the initial post (and my comprehension of Imperial measures are clearly impaired, too). Thank you again for the advice :)

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Permalink Reply by Arthur on February 18, 2013 at 4:20pm

Guatemalan Antigua, my all time favorite

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Permalink Reply by Michael1359 on February 18, 2013 at 7:21pm

I just bought some of that since they were out of Sumatra and will give it a try in the morning. The Barista said it was his all-time favorite.

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