Weird question for a man's website, but hey, debate is debate. A friend found this on youtube. I think is sort of captures why I think feminism is dead (or at least dying). I think girls have been told they could do whatever they want (which is true) but the feminist movement from the 60-70s onward also convinced them that they could also have it all too (which is utter bullshit). I think the myth was that men prevented them from having it all, but in fact it was biology. As I've entered my 30s I've met plenty of women who put having a family on the long finger and now they are horribly discovering that they've waited too long and all the promises they've been fed since being little girls are all lies. A 40 yr old man can still find love and a family just as easy as a 20 yr old (easier since he now has experience and money). A 40 yr old woman is discovering that she has already squandered her best options for such. Some are still lucky, others are happy with the choices they made, but I've met more than a few who never knew what was coming.
What do you think?
Not dead. Just finished.
In this country, it has achieved all it will, and all it needs to. Most women don't see the need to participate anymore. Those that do are mostly just ideologues, those for whom "oppressed" is a career choice, or politicos ... all of which will complain until the day they die regardless of whether there is anything worth complaining about.
Feminism is no longer an actual civil rights movement with a cause ... it is just another left wing interest group with a complaint that can never be satisfied (for if it ever is, they will be out of a job).
Feminism is no longer an actual civil rights movement with a cause ...
I agree with this portion.
it is just another left wing interest group with a complaint that can never be satisfied (for if it ever is, they will be out of a job).
I disagree with this to a point. I suppose you are correct when it comes to national left wing ideology, however it fails at the individual level. Feminism is moving out of the national spotlight and into the community at this point. It's no longer about women being equal to men, that goal has been achieved. It is now about equal, but different.
It is not the same as equal, but separate. Women today are no longer needing to act like men in order to find a seat in the corporate boardroom. What they are bringing to the table is a unique viewpoint and a unique set of skills. They offer a worldview and experiences distinct from men, but they still get to sit at the table.
It's a movement in flux. Where is your place, when you have achieved your goals?
Equal, but different...just like every individual human being. I work in an environment of mixed demographics of race, nationality and gender. Equality is something we hear about in great detail regularly. I think that stereotypes exsist for a reason but that does not enable anyone to gauge the individual because of them. That being said, with all the work that has been done to see us all on equal ground, should feminists (or anyone but I am maintaing the point of the thread) really turn it around and request to be seen as seperate (as a demographical whole, we all deserve that as individuals)? That seems counter productive to the entire movement.
The goals of this movement were established, voting -check, right to serve -check, allowed in all workplaces/establishments -check. Sounds like mission accomplished and we should just move forward with grading the indiviuals.
Carnival of the platitudes day, Shane?
I'm about ready to suspect you are just pointing out the hollowness of this new kind of democratic language...
Isn't flux what's used on the joint before you solder the pipes?
Poor Richard strikes again?
I have only one answer: It isn't in Greece!
Mostly I'm tired lately.
Now you make perfect sense!