Hello Guys

My name is Adam and this is my first post here.

First a little background.

I fell in love with a beautiful woman about 6 years ago and eventually my feelings were reciprocated, i was/am the luckiest man alive. I used to work for a well known banking firm (only a call centre agent helping with bank accounts and transfers) and everything was going strong. My long term partner (i refer to her as my wife because she may as well be) fell pregnant (planned) and a few weeks later i lost my job (it was an agency thing so not overly stable) and she left me. For 9 months we went through hell, but eventually 2 weeks after my son was born we got back together and everything was fine again. Then she fell pregnant with my daughter (unplanned but wanted) and everything went downhill again, we started fighting a LOT and sleeping in seperate beds/rooms. This time i was at the birth and i felt so in love with my wife, son and daughter that i could have cried (in fact i did cry). However once again things took a turn for the worst, and everything went down, we would fight over every silly thing, and her expectations of me as a human being were becoming more and more unreasonable (for instance, she gets angry when i take off my socks and fluff gets on the floor, but if i pick up the fluff she says my hands are filthy ((even though as a guitarist they are washed enough to take the skin off)) yet she spot cleans the bathroom floor with toilet roll and spit and clogs the toilet expecting me to fish it out). We barely ever have sex, and even then (it always has been) stiff and cold (save for rare occasions after a drink... and i mean RARE). We spend very little time together, but because of the atmosphere and treading on eggshells the last thing i want to do is go to dinner with her and the kids to the same place we always go... which then causes an arguement, and if it's not that then something else will come along.

I'm sorry for the long post but it is needed to inform the outcome.

A few days ago, i was added on skype by a girl i have never met who wanted a song of mine (a friend had circulated a couple and had apparently sent out my contact details), eventually after talking, we started flirting with each other. Quite dodgy stuff was said, and she flirtingly said "you cant go anywhere till you say you love me" and i said it back, with no sincerity only flirty.

After the conversation i felt really guilty about it so i cleared my cache out on my pc and just wanted to sweep it away, however i didn't count on the android app not being cleared, so after she asked for my phone to use as an alarm... she saw everything easily.

She is rightly hurting, and i can't believe i could hurt someone i cared for (even after the ups and downs) so much. It has exacerbated her insecurities about herself, and her trust in me has been shaken to the core. She is cycling through anger and sadness almost constantly, and so close to christmas has just made everything worse.

My additional concern here though, (including the above) is that, she was warey of going to counseling before and now she is flat out refusing. blaming me for everything, which is understandable but i wish for our relationship, our world to stop being fractured and be healed, but it needs both our work right? or is it only me that needs to sort stuff out? will she ever forgive me? can i be forgiven? can anyone shed any light on it? i cant stand to hear my children being told that i'm a prick but i cant explain my side (not that i have the right to) to defend myself, especially to my son, (because he's older)

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Move out, and it's over.

People living together w/o a marriage license do sometimes go for a marriage license.  The hurt of breakup is going to be just as horrid on the kids as if their parents were married already, and significant to the two adults as well.  If you want to stay with her, OP, I don't think moving out is going to manage that.

 

Very well written post, while I don't agree that marriage is important I very much empathise with your comments about building a stronger foundation. Well done.

Okay. First off, you didnt cheat. You pulled a douchebag move, but didnt cheat.

Should you feel guilty? Absofuckinglutley. 

Should she be hurt? I dont know... never u derstood how the female mind works. But she should be worried.

But heres the problem....

"My long term partner (i refer to her as my wife because she may as well be"

Shes not. Youve been with her off and on for years, But she still just your girlfriend, and she acts like it. And frankly not even a good one. 

The relationship is becoming damaging to your kids, and she doesn't care enough to fix it.... even if you do.

Do yourself a favor, cut her loose. Sounds harsh, but I've been where you are, and I was actually married. Now my exwife is happier,  as are my kids, and so am I...

Oh come on. Did you even read further than the title?

He did not cheat at all, his girlfriend (who isn't even his wife) is obviously abusive, and his "love" for her seems more like Stockholm Syndrome, than like anything else.

re: I cheated and wish to ease my Wife's pain

You've responded in a very manly, respectable way!  I'll be praying for you!

Tough one, not married and your reasons are your own.  I can how you feel you cheated in that you were less than faithful in your communications with this other girl.  Thought about, talked about, acted out.  Everything begines somewhere and there seem to be a violation of trust, thats going to be tough to get over.

 

I have six kids, I was not there for the first pregnance as i just joined the military and was in training.  The second pregnancy she was CRAZY, accused me of all  kinds of things, we actually seperated very briefly.  Third pregnancy, we figured out it was her pregnancy, this realization coupled with counciling has saved our marriage. 

You pulled a dick move, it is going to be hard to bring up the possibility that this could be her pregnancy behavior wihout being insulting.  I am assuming that while not pregnant she is a normal person?

"she's as crazy as a shit-house rat"

Hey fucker. That's my line.

You are living like a family without actually being one. It is the bridge to nowhere!  My suggestion is move out immediately. Who gets the kids is up to the two of you but regardless, you'll do more harm than good staying together "for the kids." Children are not stupid. They may not have the experience to understand the subtleties but they sure as hell will know you two are a mess.

Once separated, either work on the relationship that is supposed to have already been in place or cut your losses. In either case, be there for the kids. That means you can not be a kid yourself. Counseling could help. Go by yourself or with the mother of your children, but go!

And stop calling her your wife. She is not.  Common law marriage laws were created to protect women who over time became dependent on the man in their lives. They were not intended to legitimize the relationship. That should have come from the two of you.

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