ok so I admit it, I've never been the best with money and right now I've got bills piled up over my head and generally have no way to pay them. I get my paycheck and its usually gone by the end of the day. I have improved my spending habits dramatically but now I've got this mess to fix up. I have a full time job and it pays decent but the hours fluctuate so much that it makes getting a second job difficult and I like to be able to spend time with my wife too. Any ideas on getting ahead or making a little extra money to help get ahead and eventually save to give my bussiness a launch

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I am very good with my hands and have tried making things and selling them but it never seems to work. I have wanted to start a side business of restoring houses but don't have the time for it. I love the rental house idea except that my credit is crap and I can barely meet my own rent much less make a down payment. I am currently working on a book and hope to publish by the middle of next year but need a more immediate second source of income as the wolves are getting angrier. I also have a website I am trying to sell stuff on, both stuff I make myself and things I buy at wholesale but I have yet to make a sale from it. Any ideas on getting that going would be appreciated as well. and thanks for the websites

Do you spend as much time marketing the site and your skills as you do making stuff? If you don't you need to be. That doesn't have to cost either, look into and think up ideas of making people know you and your stuff exists. If they don't then they can't buy anything. 

I've tried a few different things to try to get it out there. Were there any particular ideas you had in mind?

Well, let's start with the fact that you're on a forum frequented by men who would jump at the chance of helping you and possibly buying your wares, and yet you didn't even mention your URL.  Not even after we showed interest.  I know there is a fine line between mentioning it, and spamming a forum, but still...


Start with self-promoting it, and work your way up.

good point. for those who are interested its onlinestore.blackdiamondbison.com I've got wallets, beer scented soaps, buffalo jerky and more

Big tip, you need people to be able to buy online without having to go through the hassle of printing stuff out, etc. It'll put a lot of people off, we are in the age of laziness, make people giving you their money as simple as possible.

It says you accept Paypal payments so read up on setting up an online payment system via Paypal. The others might have a different opinion on this but I think it is pretty necessary for stuff you're going to post.

Of course if you start offering services like tailored furniture you can have people contact you directly for that.

Thanks for the tip and I've now made some changes. I can definitely understand the hassle with my previous setup

That's a good start. I'd suggest reading this article on the main forum. Consistent improvement and hard work will pay off on projects like this. And like said before all of the necessary learning can be done in the library, on help groups like this and by trial and error.

Things to think about. What are you doing to make people aware of the site? What are you doing to make the site better? How can you offer more value to people? 

Start thinking about how you can work on this, as a general rule you need to at least spend the same amount of time advertising it as you have thinking about and creating it. And that's just to get the ball rolling.

One last thing, your P&P seems quite high for small orders.

thanks Liam, I found the article very helpful. And thanks for pointing out the p&p I think I threw that in before I got a chance to actually check how much it would cost and then forgot to change it

I presume in the State you have access to free libraries? Go and find all the books you can on marketing, the newer the better in most cases, and look through and find all the things you can do or adapt to do for free. 

Ask if you can put a card up in all the local shops, you could even speak with particularly suitable shops and offer their customers a discount. Find appropriate markets to take your wares along to. Find suitable forums and groups to mention your site on. There are lots. Either way I'd suggest getting down to the library and reading up on these things. You don't have to spend a dime to start getting the word out.

Going to what Chuck said about self-promoting above, if you're proud of what you do then tell people about it. 

my wife does not work but is looking for a job. currently my paycheck brings in enough to pay all the bills as long as we spend no other money, including gas and food which are obviously necessities so that poses a problem especially since we live a half hour drive from my work. I had talked to several farmers earlier in the year and they were all set for the summer but hopefully with spud harvest coming up I can find some weekend work there, but this whole area is pretty pressed for jobs and money right now so jobs fill extremely fast and are hard to get. Definitely some helpful thoughts there about paying down bills which I will definitely put to use as soon as I have the means

To be honest I love the idea of furniature and have done it before while I was living at home and had access to my dads shop but I don't have much in the way of tools now annd to buy them would cost far more than I've got but that does give me a few other ideas to think about. In fact that gives me at least one idea that I think is pretty good. Thanks


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