Hi, I think this topic has already been treated if it is redundant I apologize to the moderators.
I think that chest hair is manly, I actually believe that to be completely shaved just for "pleasure" to women is quite a fad.
But I have a lot of hair on his chest and shoulders equally. The problem is that when I take off my shirt at the beach I am ashamed. What do you advise me? Some friends told me to use hair removal cream, but I would like other opinions.
Really? "Body hair shows you are a man."
Then I guess I'm not a man.
Your arguement is exceptionally unreasonable.
So, when you entered puberty, and matured from boy to man, you're telling us that you didn't sprout hair...anywhere?
Hair is one of the defining characteristics of male puberty.
This O P was about chest hair, silly.
The problem -- and the perceived insult -- is not in my observation (which would be invalidated by hairy women, but not by hairless men), but in the logical fallacy of "affirming the consequent" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent). The last example in the Wikipedia page is parallel to your argument.
Sorry you felt insulted. I won't take responsibility for that, but I will affirm and honor the manhood of any man, regardless of superficial traits.
I've met those hairy women.
No worry - it takes a lot more than comments about my hairless chest to insult this guy. I'm more of an engineer... your word-wizardry is beyond me.
If you weren't insulted, you would not have needed to cry foul. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
You're an engineer? Then you can understand what you're calling "word wizardry" (?!) easily enough, without words.
This is invalid reasoning.
I was trying to be on the playful side of things... not insulted at all.
My undergrad is in architecture - in one way this could be seen as a profession that takes the objective rules of engineering and apply the subjectiveness of humanity to them. Generally it's bad logic to assume that your fellow man follows solid logic... just like the fallacy I just committed.
A personal story: I returned from Iraq and was standing next to another junior officer of the same rank - a senior officer approaches us and after awhile of small talk he points out the Combat Action Badge on the other officer's uniform. This is a decoration given for engaging or being engaged by the enemy. In my particular part of the Army this usually means you were in proximity to a roadside bomb or a mortar. When he asked where mine was I said that I'm lucky. With a sneer he responded, "It's not luck. You didn't do your job."
I agree with Will's reply. Its more a matter of personal preference.
I advise you to remember that you think that the hair is manly. Manly isn't wrong. Therefor there is nothing to be ashamed of.
If you don't want to use cream, but want to get rid of the hair, then you do have other options...Google is your friend.
Clipper it. This will leave stubble, of whatever length you set, but it should work pretty well. And, you still have your hair, that way.
Shave it. Razor blades should likely work, or Philips makes a specialized electric shaver for just that purpose.
Creams. This removes the hair down deep, so you don't have to shave daily.
Tweezing. Pluck the hairs out.
Epilator. This plucks the hairs. Same result as the tweezers, but a power tool.
Wax. This pulls the hair out, too.
Threading. Another form of epilation.
LASER removal, etc. Expensive, but permanent.
Or, you could bleach the hair so it remains, but is lighter in color...less noticeable that way.
OR, you could choose to be comfortable with your own body, and just forget about this silliness.