I posted a question about a problem I'm having with my Wrangler but I didn't get any replies.  It leads me to believe that most of you don't work on your cars or any mechanical gadgets.  I understand your reluctance as most, if not all, of our modern vehicles are difficult to work on for the average person, but surely someone has had a similar difficulty to what I posted and discovered a means of overcoming that difficulty.

I guess most of us would rather talk about shaving, dressing, feelings, and what it means to be a man or what a manliness really is more than about mechanics and things of that nature.  Maybe this is the wrong forum for questions regarding cars.

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I'll do repairs to my trucks -- starters, water pumps, radiators, etc., etc..  I have a mechanic that does anything that's complicated enough to be out of my league, though.  I didn't know the answer to your question about the Wrangler, though -- so I didn't answer.


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Many of us do. But I've never worked on a wrangler, didn't see your question. 

I do on occasion, but if I have a specific question on a specific model of car, I do the manly thing and head to a place that deals with that specific car so I can get to people that spefically will know my specifics.

People not knowing your specific problem on your specific vehicle on an extremely general webpage is not a symbolic symptom of people all over not doing something, it just means you need to focus where you ask your questions and look for answers.

If you want a forum where half the users seem to be able to swap a hemi into an original Mini, and, in general, are mechanical heroes, look no further than grassrootsmotorsports.com.  I mostly read around on it, but my mechanical knowledge (and available time) has me hitting up a garage more often than I'd like.

You can't put a hemi into a mini without some serious re-work of  the whole front end of the car (lol).

I can work on my own vehicles when I have to but i like working on newer vehicles less each year.  I like crawling under vehicles a little less each year too.  I have to admit that I might have a low mechanical frustration threshold so one stubborn bolt and my fun meter zeroes out.   Your Wrangler question was beyond me. 

I find myself working more and more on my plane, boat, and other peoples' planes.  Questionable boat mechanics try to charge even more than certified airplane mechanics here and both are much more expensive than auto mechanics.   Right now my poor plane is spread out over a hangar floor waiting for the inspector to do the annual. 

Never had the slightest inkling to work on a vehicle.

I like to know in theory what is going on under that hood so I'm not a totally clueless owner, but I gladly farm that work out to others.

I prefer to get my hands dirty in other ways.

I have a Chevy Cruze and a Monte Carlo SS.  I do as much of my own work as I can.  The only time I have something done by a dealer/shop is if I lack the equipment or tools to do it myself.  I saw your thread, but I don't have any experience working on Jeeps (aside from replacing a radiator in a Cherokee).

I had a '72 Monte Carlo and did a lot of work myself.

I don't recall seeing your post on the Wrangler.  Probably couldn't help you much since my experince with Jeeps starts & stops with a 1944 Willlys that my uncle doesn't own anymore.  As to why don't more folks work on their own vehicles?  I'd say it's maintenance intervals and tool costs.  "Back in the day" everything on a car or truck had to be done in 6,000 mile intervals.

Lube, oil & filter?  6,000 miles or three months when I started driving.  Tune up (Plugs, points, condensor)? 12,000 miles.  Air & fuel filter? 12,000--24,000 miles.  Transmission fluid? 24,000 miles.  Equipment required?  Hand tools, a dwell tach & a timing light.

Now, No lube points, oil & filter ever 7,500 miles or when the light comes on.  Tune up at 100,000 miles.  Air filter, 15,000 mile or when needed.  Transmission fluid, 100,000 miles.  Equipment required, hand tools and a few thousand dollars worth of electronic diagnostic & metering equipment.

There's a big deal, especially for a suburban dad.  In the "old days", you could you could, with a Chilton Manual, do something on the order of 75-90% of the "scheduled maintenance" and regularly occurring mechanical repairs in the drive way, and you did it often enough to justify the expense of the tools & specialty meters.  Now, for most vehicles, you don't do the work often enough to keep proficient, and why buy expensive equipment that you might use once, per vehicle?

Second thing is that many repairs, even down to the lawn mower leve,l is largely at the point of replacing some sort of "combined systems module" instead of fixing the actual broken part.  Viz, the failure of one ignition wire, coming out of a computer controlled coil pack can be a $900.00 job to replace...which is still cheaper than buying the shop equipment necessary to identify the problem in the first place.

Third...and this goes along with the above.  When was the last time you saw a high school auto shop class?  Or any type of "trades" type shop class at a high school?  If you never got the basic skills, you can't do the work. 

I understand about the tools being expensive, for this project I spent $16.00 on parts and almost $120 on tools, but I know I'll be using them in the future as I have more things I want to do on this vehicle.  For example I'm wanting to change out the rear brakes from drum to caliper and, maybe, change the differential gear ratios as I am running 33" tires on the Jeep.

I call this my 'mid-life' crisis and it's a good hobby as it will "keep me off the streets and out of the bars".

Mostly, I'm referring to what used to be routine work, such as tune ups.  I started seen this in the late 1970s, when the shop I worked at had to buy the expensive equipment to do work on the then new computerized ignition systems.  Also, for a nice bit of wonderment, that CVT ransmission GM dropped into the Saturn Vue, guess what?  You can't even check the fluid level on those, no dip stick.  Also, further complicating things is that the "stylists" have been allowed under the hood and a number of marques...to hide the ugly mechanicals.

As far as that goes, the last nice simple "conventional" car I recall was the 1977 Mazda GLC.  Very simple mechanicals, most of it was owner maintainable/repairable. 

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