This is more of a question for the war vets on here.  Is the digital camo fatigues the army uses now an improvement?  I heard that it breaks the outline better, but the one-pattern-fits all principle (except for the desert) makes it stick out more.  Is there really only one pattern?  Is it better than the splotches or tiger stripes?

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All three.

If you think the ACU's are idiotic, take a look at the AF ABU's. The camo is just as useless, but someone had the brilliant idea of using buttons everywhere on them. Fucking. Buttons. Your torso pockets are useless to begin with and you can't use any of your leg pockets quickly or even get your fly open without having to undo and redo a bunch of buttons. Stupid things are designed for office work, not being deployed. Probably why the PJ's and forward air controllers don't use them. 

Then they decided to make the first generation all winter weight when we've got guys deployed in Iraq that are required to wear them. I got my issued in 2010 and it wasn't until this year that a lightweight version for hot weather was issued. 

Okay, thanks.  

Both the Air Force ABU's and the Army ACU's come in a single color digital camo pattern. And frankly, unless your laying on a pile of gravel, they don't do much to help you blend in. The Marines MARPAT fatigues are digital and have different colors for woodlands, desert, and snow, so they're a bit more practical.

The digital camo does have fewer hard lines when viewed from a distance so in that respect it does work better than the splotch-style BDU's that were used before it. But the big improvement is in blending in under night vision goggles. The black areas on the old BDU's made it look like you were covered in spots when you look at it through NVG's. If you look at the new digital camo, there's no black areas so you just look like a grey, blurry blob from a distance, far better for blending in at night. 

But, all the services are probably going to be switching to using the same camo system, called MultiCam, that's in use by the special forces in Afghanistan now. 

That's stupid.  Why would they used camouflage with green in it in Afghanistan?  The best way of doing it in my opinion would be on for desert, woodland, snow, and night ops/urban.

The only green part of trashcanistan would be the Marines stationed there.

The multicam I saw on Google has green in it, so I guess so.

The MultiCam comes in different color patterns, if the DOD is smart than they won't buy just by one for all environments. 

Oh, thank goodness.

During my decades of Army service I’ve gone through the old green fatigues, woodland pattern BDU (Battle Dress Uniform), two types of DCUs (Desert Camouflage Uniform, “chocolate chips” and “coffee stains”), winter white coveralls, ACU (Army Combat Uniform), and now the MultiCams.  The base camouflage uniform is just that: a base upon which to build layers of material from the local environment.  Some patterns are better suited for some environments than others, but no one pattern or color is suitable for everywhere or all seasons.  IMHO the current crop of digital uniforms are pretty much completely worthless for their advertised purpose “down range”, though the new MultiCams (which seem like smaller pattern woodland BDUs) work better than the God-awful ACUs in the mountain terrain of Afghanistan.  Night, snow, jungle, desert (every desert is different), forest (each season), grasslands, mountains, swamps, etc. all present widely different camo challenges.  The only hard rule of thumb is to layer local natural items on yourself and keep reapplying natural materials as you move through the terrain. I always preferred being covered in local dust, dirt, mud, and foliage whenever I was outside the wire - the CIF (Central Issue Facility) be damned upon turn-in.

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