Bicyclists that ride in the bike lane into oncoming traffic.....this annoys me more than anything!!!!

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Yes, that's the safest way. Better to see the car that's coming into your lane than have it hit you from behind.

this is what's wrong with the world...


first off, it's illegal to ride into oncoming traffic....cyclists must follow the same traffic laws as motorized vehicles....would you drive a car down the wrong side of the street????


second, it not only puts the cyclist and all oncoming legal traffic in immediate danger but also puts any cyclist that is actually obeying the law in danger by forcing them to negotiate 'right of way' and thus disrupting the flow of traffic.



Actually that is not the safest way.  The bike is a vehicle and must follow the same laws and has the same right to the road.  They cannot safely move into the lane to make a turn if they are headed illegaly  against traffic. 

Now walking, Walking you walk against traffic because you should see the cars coming up.  You are not operating a vehicle.

I respect that cyclists are to be treated like motorists (I treat them like a slow moving car) but that respect vanishes the moment they want to break the rules (go the wrong way or run through red lights).

Wrong.  It's the knucklehead who buys a Vespa-type motorscooter...and rides it like a bicycle messenger.  No helmet, no stops, no brains.

Way back when the Boy Scouts and other organizations recommended that cyclists ride against traffic flow. That might have been okay for 1950, but these days bicycles are considered to be vehicles and must ride with the flow of traffic. Most state traffic codes also require cyclists to obey traffic control signs and devices so they should stop for traffic lights, stop signs etc. I see cyclists blow through stop signs all of the time and defend their actions by saying that there was no traffic around. The same people will throw a fit if they see an automobile driver blow through a stop sign.


I live in a town with a major state university and we see two or three people a year arrested for operating their bicycle while under the influence. Their condition is usually somewhere between weaving all over the road and falling off the bike. 

That really must have been "way back when'.  California covered bicycle operation, including riding with traffic flow starting in 1916

The abridged set of rules regarding "slow moving vehicles" from the California DMV Driver Handbook (it doesn't provide the CVC citations, but it's pretty concise.


For the detail oriented, here's the exact portions of the California Vehicle Code that apply to bicycles and bicyclists:


And just for fun, the CVC also covers riding horses or operating an animal drawn vehicle on public roads...

Here is a brief summary of the California Motor Vehicle Code as it applies to equestrians. 

Who Must Yield to Whom?  

Section 21759 of the California Motor Vehicle Code provides that the driver of any vehicle approaching a horse-drawn vehicle or person on horseback must slow down or stop as appropriate under the circumstances to avoid frightening the horse or otherwise endangering horse and rider.  So, the folks who roar past you yelling and honking the horn are violating the law.

Equestrian Crossings

Section 21805 of the California Motor Vehicle Code provides that vehicles must yield to equestrians in designated equestrian crossings.  However, 21805 also notes that the rider must use due care not to proceed into the path of a vehicle – even at an equestrian crossing, you still have to look both ways to make sure there is no oncoming traffic before proceeding.

Riding Down the Road

Section 21050 of the California Motor Vehicle Code provides that “every person riding or driving an animal upon a highway” has all of the rights and duties of a vehicle driver.  This means that equestrians must obey all traffic laws, including riding with traffic (on the correct side of the road) and signaling all turns.  If you are riding along the road and your horse suddenly bolts into the path of an oncoming car, you could be held responsible for the accident.

The "ride facing traffic" line came out of my 1964 Boy Scout Handbook. I didn't claim it was right - or legal.

that guy in the first video is an idiot. quit whining, follow the law, and give the cops the time to handle the other people breaking the law. People like this are one of the major reasons I avoid cities.


A new complaint:  What dorkus is teaching these cashiers to give your change by stacking your coins on top of your receipt and bills, then trying to hand it to you? When did this start and when did correctly counting it back to you, like is has been for the previous 200 years, end?  Both my kids know the correct procedure, it you should be the first thing you learn as a clerk or cashier.


If you buy something for 3.50 with a ten dollar bill, the clerk says " that's 3.50" and counts ".50 makes 4", then hands you a $1 and a $5, counting " 5, and $5 makes ten. Does anybody else remeber that?  I've actually handed it back to them and had them do it right.

Who ever is teaching, ( or not teaching) these people should be  thoroughly pummelled.


oh totally agreed..I hate this too!!!!


I believe it has a whole lot to do with the cash registers displaying the amount of change due the customer.  Toss in the usual lack of employee training and you get, "Thats $6.50 change", $5.00, $1.00 and 50 cents...pulled from the cash drawer in that order.


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