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Permalink Reply by Suburban Sentinel on June 12, 2012 at 11:12am

Not surprising.  NYC is a model for stupid "nanny state" regulation.  Apparently the U.S. Constitution does not apply to the exalted metropolis.  Yes, the rotten apple has taken away the peoples' right to unreasonable search ("stop & frisk") and right of self-defense (no handguns or substantial blades); now NYC has made it illegal to whittle.

Forget the armed criminals, the police will handle them for you (when they eventually arrive on scene).  Forget the Wall Street thieves who helped gut an already beleaguered middle class.  These teenage bible college whittlers are a scourge upon civilization and must be stopped.  Let no scrap of oak or maple suffer at the hands of these blade wielding sociopaths.

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Permalink Reply by Rebekah on June 12, 2012 at 11:13am

A "camping-ministry major"?

Accrediting bodies don't seem so evil right now.

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Permalink Reply by Paul_of_TX on June 12, 2012 at 11:20am

I noticed that also. There are plenty of jobs that just a require a bachelors degree and they don't care what the degree is in as long as you have one. We will get to the point soon where that will stop if degrees like this keep popping up.

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Permalink Reply by Nathanael on July 3, 2012 at 10:12pm

Yeah, best explanation I can come up with is that it's geared toward folks who want to run Christian camps or wilderness retreats.  However, I doubt there's that much reason to separate it from basic ministry training, since the portion that's specific seems ill-suited to college coursework.

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Permalink Reply by Paul_of_TX on June 12, 2012 at 11:16am

You can't control how the nanny state will react or when a cop with a bug up his @ss is going to hassle you. Carrying a knife is part of being prepared and so is knowing where you are going. My daily carry is a two inch folding knife but when I am camping or working outdoors I carry a larger knife in my pocket.

I'm not saying that the kid did anything wrong but I see lots of people who carry the biggest knife they can find and that will scare some people. You can't control how others will react but you can control what you carry in your pocket. Maybe leave the bigger knife in your car or suitcase when traveling and have a smaller pocket knife in your pocket. If I ever get hassled over my knife I will gladly go in front of a jury and sit and smile while the jury openly laughs at the prosecutor when he holds up my 2 inch folder. I have gone into court buildings and a police station with my knife. I had to go thru a metal detector so I put my knife in the bowl and the officer said it had to be checked and I got it when I left the building. I carry a knife at all times but what I don't carry in my pocket is the possibility to be hassled due to the size of my knife. I'm not saying you shouldn't carry a larger knife that is up to you but you might be leaving that door open for trouble.

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Permalink Reply by Margie on June 12, 2012 at 12:17pm

They even confiscated his whittling knife. The one he helped to teach special-needs kids back in Pennsylvania.

 

You can't make this stuff up! 

But, hey, since they've basically outlawed whittling, I think they should outlaw  corn shucking next.

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Permalink Reply by Loki on June 18, 2012 at 11:39pm

not just NYC it's North America as a whole. We (I say we as i'm Canadian but our government basically treats us the same as your American one does), are being treated as children who are too stupid to think for ourselves.

 

Because SOMEONE may do something that MIGHT result in an idiot being injured. Well lets just take the whole issue of choice and personal responibilty right away then.

 

Now if something could even potentionally affect someone in the slightest negative way it's no longer allowed.

 

All these studies show kids (and adults) are in worse shape, getting fatter etc. then 30 years ago. Well maybe it's because we've outlawed every single fun thing kids can do out doors now so their only option is stay inside on the computer and experience it virtually.

 

Sorry for the rant but moronic policies really get to me.

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Permalink Reply by R.You.P. on July 3, 2012 at 9:33pm

I'm pretty alarmed at how - well, how fat some young kids are.  Equally surprising (it shouldn't be in this day and age, but it still does surprise me) is the sight of kids that must be all of 5 or 6 years old with cell phones.  I'm 30; I still don't own one.  'Nother topic, sorry; just wanted to agree that it appears that yes, even the kids are getting out of shape (maybe because they're glued to tiny computer screens all day long?).

Best Regards

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Permalink Reply by Dan P on July 4, 2012 at 9:59am

"not just NYC it's North America as a whole. We (I say we as i'm Canadian but our government basically treats us the same as your American one does), are being treated as children who are too stupid to think for ourselves."

remove the warning labels on sharp things, let the problem correct itself ...

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Permalink Reply by R.You.P. on July 3, 2012 at 9:09pm

Where's the eye-rolling icon? Ridiculous.  (Not these posts; the fact that the boy got it trouble for a small knife.)

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Permalink Reply by Jack Bauer on July 3, 2012 at 9:29pm

Land of the free.

JB

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Permalink Reply by Native Son on July 4, 2012 at 11:16am

Everyone so far has missed a couple of points. you don't let something, particularly an illegal weapon violation slide because the suspect states he didn't know it was illegal.  That is a bullet proof defense against virtually anycriminal charge, at least the first time.  There's one instance of a court dismissing charges because the foreign college student on trial stated [he] didn't know it was illegal to steal other people's work and sell it overseas.  (Drive drunk? "I dint know tha wush 'legal, offischur.")

Main lesson learned was "You're not in Ohio, anymore."

For the record, my Swiss Army Knife and my Leatherman have cost me a small chunk of cash for last minute locker rentals at theme parks.

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