Well, Iv thought pretty much for 2 years now and i honestly want to join the Army reserves or national guard. The only problem is with me being 17 and in high school its hard to convince my mom to let me enter the reserves now so i could start now and continue up through college so i can come out an officer. I've told her this and my dad for the past few months hoping that it would work in convincing them but its just poop, there really adamant about be not entering, ill be 18 soon this Dec. and i can enter with out consent but I really don't want to have bad blood going on with them. Can someone give  e any advise on the matter?

Views: 256

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

If you are wanting to go officer, it would be wiser to try to enroll into ROTC. You won't actually be in the Army until you graduate and are commissioned, and it won't interfere with your education (would actually complement it). And they pay for your college.

Yea I am also planning to do ROTC in college, the thing is that I kinda wanted to do Reserve now so i could some pay and do all of that while getting my officer training you something kinda like getting the experience

Yeah, you gotta pick one or the other. I'd suggest talking to an Army officer recruiter and let him explain the details of how ROTC works

Not true. There are a few programs that allow enlisted members to get their commission. You can be in the guard and also in rotc at the same time. It is called The Simultaneous Membership Program. Having already completed basic and AIT will give you an edge over other students and you will most likely be put in a leadership role...helping you learn to lead soldiers. Also, you can stay in the reserves the whole time you are in college, getting free tuition, and then decide to go OCS after you get your degree. Being enlisted prior to commissioned is a great way to learn and be able to put yourself in an enlisted soldier's shoes. 

I stand corrected.

That's what I thought, but I'm neither a reservist or guardsman, so I don't know the nuances of those realms.

"The purpose of the SMP Program is to: (1) give eligible enlisted members of the Army National Guard and Army Reserve an opportunity to participate in the Advanced ROTC Program" 

I was a member of SMP so I know what I am talking about. I was a guard member who then enrolled in college and entered the ROTC program while still serving as a member of the guard. As for DoD not having a direct path from enlisted to officer corps, have you not heard of OCS?

"Officer candidates are drawn from enlisted members (up to SFC), warrant officers, inter-service transfers,or civilian college graduates who enlist for guaranteed attendance at OCS after they complete basic training"

Any enlisted member who has a college degree (or a certain number of  credit hours and is working towards the degree) and meets age and security requirements can enroll in OCS. About as direct as you can get

If you're gonna go enlisted, you will stay enlisted until the end of your contract. That's just way too roundabout of a way, when you could just join ROTC, still go to the field, still do all the super hooah army stuff, and get commissioned at the end of your four years. ROTC isnt just an extracurricular activity, its an actual contract with the army.

If you do decide to go enlisted and then ROTC, I must caution you on one thing. If you go to ROTC as an enlisted member who has combat experience, a deployment or even basic training under your belt you may hate ROTC. You will be surrounded by people that you know will make terrible leaders yet you have to answer to them. Maybe that was just my experience, who knows. In regards to your parents, ultimately it is your decision. They can take comfort in the fact that the GWOT is winding down and a deployment is looking less likely for new recruits. The best advice I can give you is DO NOT GET ANY TATTOOS below your elbows, below your knees or bigger then your open hand. The regs just changed to be much more strict on tattoos. While enlisted members are grandfathered, enlisted members trying to become officers are not. 

Alright i'll do that then, it seems like SMP might help me a little bit more at least. and thanks about the Warning on the Tattoo regulations, helps out a lot if i ever decide to get tattoos.

As Stephen said going ROTC is the best route. All branches of the military have "programs" to cross over to officer but they are piss poor at best. out of about 20 people That I have seen try over the years only 2 crossed over to the academy. Chances are if you go enlisted that you will be in a mos that does not allow you the time to do all of the schooling/programs that will be required. Going officer is also a 6 year minimum enlistment as well after you finish school.

Your parents will always love you no matter what. They don't want you to grow up too fast. When they see you have thought this out and stuck to your guns they can't help but be proud of you for finishing something very hard and serving your country.

 

RSS

Latest Activity

Gentleman Engineer replied to Gentleman Engineer's discussion Barcelona About October
"Pleasure would state that said tense would lack aught of the prototypical. Fortune would state also that there would exist a certain settlement about the State of the Sole Star which would exist apropos for such an adjective."
3 hours ago
Braeden 2.0 replied to Gentleman Engineer's discussion Barcelona About October
"I'm very good at impersonating other people's writing or speaking."
4 hours ago
Pale Horse replied to Gentleman Engineer's discussion Barcelona About October
"The fact that you do that so well makes me lose a little respect for you."
6 hours ago
Shane replied to Portnoy's discussion Latest in Health Care in the group The Great Debate
"Subtitle 2 Section 7,9-10,15-18. The non-taxed inheritance bit will come in a later bill.  That falls into either tax reform, or Phase 3 of Ryan's plan."
8 hours ago
Native Son replied to Specs's discussion I need some work advice.
""He's Back!""
8 hours ago
Native Son replied to Portnoy's discussion Latest in Health Care in the group The Great Debate
"Missed that part.  Where is it in the House bill?  "
8 hours ago
Papa Thompson Jr joined Bryan Smith's group
Thumbnail

Gentlemen Apologists

A place for gentlemen of all stripes who are interested in the broad field of Christian apologetics. If you are a thoughtful man interested in pursuing a more reasonable faith, or if becoming a pipe-smoking clone of C.S. Lewis is one of your greatest aspirations, then this is the place for you.See More
13 hours ago
Shane joined Steven C.'s group
Thumbnail

Exercise

Exercise is a crucial part of maintaining a manly physique. Join up to share ideas, get support and discuss plans with other men.See More
15 hours ago

© 2017   Created by Brett McKay.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service