"It reminds me of that old joke-" Is that a roll of certs in your pocket or you're just happy to see me?"
(Ode to Mae West!)"
Are guys becomeing weaker
Are guys becomeing weaker? Now before you answer this are you as tough as your grandpa or even your dad. Quick If ww3 was tomarrow would you answer the call. Do you know now how to really throw a punch. Quick do you own a pocket knife. For many modern men these questoins take a few secs or warrent a glazed stare. Up until the 60's there was a high importance placed on makeing men fit for service and life at home. Today theres no longer that push to toughen yah up.
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Permalink Reply by Stephen on -
To be honest, I don't think people are missing the metaphors, over thinking it, misrepresenting the point etc. I just think the general view is the answer is yes and you think the answer is no. I think it comes down to being very familiar with the current era, warts and all, and being much less familiar with the now idealised versions of previous eras.
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Permalink Reply by JonEdanger on -
Well said.
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Permalink Reply by Scott McDonald on -
I think modern men are softer than our grandfathers. Most haven't had to be tough. Most men will rise to the challenge but some will not be able too. That's not anything new. As men we should challenge ourselves and not depend on society to shape who we are as individuals.
I read a lot of comments on here about what is manly and unmanly. It's not about what you do but about who you are. Modern men have a greater advantage than our grandfathers. We can learn just about any skill from youtube or varies internet resources that our fore fathers had to learn by trail and error. How we carry ourselves is a much bigger issue.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin "KVO" Vozar on -
Hello everyone!
I have had a chance to read all the post on this subject, and belive there are really 2 definitions of "maniliness" - the "surface" definition of the outward skills, knowledge, and demeanor of what is thought a manly man should posses. The other is the deeper defintion of the person that a man can become. I can't really disagree with anyone's post so far, in fact the comments about mental toghness I really do agree with!
How mentally tough are you? Do you have the "surface" skills to carry you and your family forward in times of trouble. Do you "fall apart" if your Facebook goes down or you can't "tweet"? What if your "smartphone" goes down? OMG, the world ends for some men if their cable/satellite go out! What do you do when a tree falls in your yard, or own your home or car? Can you turn off your home's water supply if a pipe breaks? Or do you sit and wait for someone to bail you out.
I'm sorry if it seems like I'm dwelling on certian skill sets and attributes of male toughness and fortitude, but isn't that the subject of this discussion?
Wheter you like it or not, and whether you want to admit it or not, there are men and women and each have their roles in society and each have certian traits, characterisitcs and skills they are expected to perform...
Personally, I like it that way...
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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on
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i think the commen lack of typicaly male skills is do to what i think is the lack of mental toughness. It takes time and hard work to learn how to woodwork or fix a car or be a sportsman and thus thos skills arnt seen as enjoyable in a era of instant gratficatison.
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Permalink Reply by Mike D. on
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Three guys died in the Aurora shooting protecting their girlfriends. They sound tough to me.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_victims_boyfriends_saved_...
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Permalink Reply by Rebekah on -
There was actually a really weird bit on Slate about how in this continuing mancession, such acts are all that's left of traditional male "head of household" roles.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on
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thos guys get gold stars in my book they did the right thing at the right time for the right reasons.
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