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Are guys becomeing weaker
Are guys becomeing weaker? Now before you answer this are you as tough as your grandpa or even your dad. Quick If ww3 was tomarrow would you answer the call. Do you know now how to really throw a punch. Quick do you own a pocket knife. For many modern men these questoins take a few secs or warrent a glazed stare. Up until the 60's there was a high importance placed on makeing men fit for service and life at home. Today theres no longer that push to toughen yah up.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Cook on -
and again the pocket knife was simply a metaphore for being prepared for lifes emergancies its a tool that represents man in the fact that it can sustain a mans life in something smaller than a comb.
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Permalink Reply by Tom Knighton on -
And it's a ridiculous metaphor. That's what you're not getting.
You're trying to communicate with poorly written language, using metaphors that you understand but many of us look at and scratch our heads. Yes, a pocket knife can be used to sustain one's life. Even 70 years ago, most men didn't have a clue how to actually use it as such. It was a tool, but they mostly just used it to cut twine, twigs, other things around town/the house/the farm/etc.
Metaphors are great things, but it also needs to be clear you're using a metaphor. "The burning sky" is a metaphor, because the sky isn't on fire but is brightly colors. "Men don't carry a pocket knife" doesn't look like a metaphor to a soul reading it because there is nothing to indicate it as such.
Look, I agree that society is trying to create a society where the men are basically neutered. I have to go out of my way to teach my son to stand for himself, and the schools aren't exactly helping in that regard. Society is telling my son one thing, while I'm trying to teach him something different. It's an uphill battle, and one that a lot of guys have decided to quit worrying about.
However, it's also important to learn to communicate effectively. Horrid spelling, horrible punctuation, all of that factors in with unclear metaphors to make it almost impossible for anyone to actually understand what you were trying to say.
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Permalink Reply by Native Son on
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So, what does it mean? My great grandfathers were farmers, a butcher and a wagonwright. My grandfathers were farmers. My father was a postal clerk. I work in an office. I come from a long line of draftees. I don't know how to box. I carry both a pocket knife and a multitool. So where does this put me on the OP's "strength/weakness" continuum?
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Permalink Reply by Ron Knapper on -
Did your anscestors stand up for what was right and honorable? Were they willing to stand up to those who would harm people unable to defend themselves? Are you?
If someone is burning an American flag, do you become both enraged and slightly happy? How dare they do that to an American flag! and at the same time think Thank God I live in a country where people are allowed to speak their mind without fear of jail / having their house burned down / etc.
In some countries (China) would this discussion actually even be possible?
It scares the bejibbers out of me to think of what it would take in today's world to put us in a situation like WW II to see what we are actually made of as a country. We have been at war a number of times since WW II, but what have we as a COUNTRY had to sacrifice during our wars? Rationing Meat? Rationing Gas? Rationing Wheat? Turning in our copper / aluminum / rubber for the war effort? etc. etc. etc. We live in different times.
What have I done recently to make my city / county / state / country / world a better place for all, not just to make my life easier?
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Permalink Reply by Native Son on
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I come from a long line of draftees.
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Permalink Reply by Margie on -
I carry both a pocket knife and a multitool. So where does this put me on the OP's "strength/weakness" continuum?
The chart indicates a definite decline.
But there seems to be hope on the horizon.
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Permalink Reply by Carl Monster on -
What does this chart show?
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Permalink Reply by KermitKebab on
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This chart demonstrates the relationship to standardized levels of pre-senilty "wussiness" of the number of sales/million of Chinese manufactured pocket knives to the tendency of relatively inebriated males under the age of twentyfive to accurately throw a punch in the back alley of clubs in the central states. Isn't that crystal clear?
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Permalink Reply by Margie on
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What does this chart show?
Oh sorry, Carl. It shows that farmers are a very tough breed indeed.
But, mostly, I was just messin' with Native Son.
Mostly.
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Permalink Reply by Carl Monster on
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I think men are, by and by, more out of shape than they ever where. Two generations back people walked to go places, automobile ownership was rare. My grandfather never drove, and supposedly used to mostly walk back from his musician gigs in NYC to New Jersey in the early morning hours because the mass transit at the time did not run late. Suburban kids are driven everywhere, and that continues into adulthood. Exercise is a past time, not something done on a daily, necessary basis.
As for knives, that I don't know about. Neither my dad nor his father had or carried pocket knives, nor did my father in law and his father, from what I gather. Carrying a knife does not make one tough, anyway.
As for coming to the defense of this country; there was a discussion here a year ago to that effect, and it generated some of the best feedback and discourse I've yet seen on this site.
The member who posed it left, and it's gone, unfortunately.
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Permalink Reply by Rick Shelton on -
True Carl. Look at the average weight of Americans. Look at the obesity 'epidemic'.
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