I want some suggestions for a hypothetical organization. It can be generally described and categorized as most like a modern day monastic order/renaissance man organization/adventurers and travelers club/intellectual society/athletics club/mafia/order of knighthood.

If there were such a group as described above that came into existence, what should it be called?

Also to note, the main activity of the organization would be a sort of mutual self-help group that would enable men of quality to better themselves intellectually and physically, testing and challenging each other. Also it would be about enabling career success and good employment prospects and advancement amongst each other, enforcing that through certain rules and a credit system. And, it would be a group that hangs out and makes plans and does things.

Thoughts, suggestions?



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It can be generally described and categorized as most like a modern day monastic order/renaissance man organization/adventurers and travelers club/intellectual society/athletics club/mafia/order of knighthood.

"Mafia"?  Interesting addition.

You need a unifying concept before a name.  What will the members have in common?


I had in mind that men who would join this group would be those who are generally more serious, dedicated, and ambitious in character. This would not just be a social group for conversation and hanging out, it would be involved in actually achieving goals and carrying through organized plans and activities. It would for those men who want to get further ahead in life, and want to use an organization that has the capacity to actually help them along in their journey. It is self-advancement through mutual group commitment. This is why I have studied the above group examples. The organizational structures of these types of groups have proven themselves throughout history.

In terms of the qualities of the men involved, it would include intelligent, driven to succeed, physically fit, athletic, resilient, resourceful, talented, competent, gifted at an above average level overall. I would say maybe the top 10% of the male population or above.  

So, men that are driven to become better members of society, or those who have already proven themselves to meet your standards?

By Mafia I presume you mean Cosa Nostra (i.e. the Sicilian Mafia that expanded into America and Canada) and you may have studied it but I have seen it. I have seen regions of Italy economically starved because of the corruption and ruthless cruelty of some men who manipulate fear and trap half a nation in perpetual poverty for their own financial needs and lust for power. It is easy to romanticize the Mafia but honestly I think anyone who does with the facts in front of them is a fool at best. 

Do you know what happens if you mess with the Mafia? They kill your family. They melt your children in acid or other such heinous acts. If you open a business against their will they'll burn it to the ground. Around 50% of GDP in the south of Italy goes to the Mafia. When Falcone and Borsellino fought the Mafia in the 80s they were both brutally killed and there was a war with the government which in my opinion has only stopped now because the government has stopped fighting to close them down. If you believe in a "survival of the fitness" environment where the strong stand on and manipulate the weak then please go on idolizing the Mafia. But, if like most of the men on here, you believe in a supportive social structure in which the strong help, encourage and protect the weak then I would review that idolization.

You see a name for a group definition that has been around for almost two hundred years. Your answer lies with  Benjamin Franklin’s Junto or "council" a mastermind group.  


I suggest the name of "Junto" 

Sounds a lot like a fraternity, or secret organization even hypothetically such an organization likely would only include the elite. Read about the skull and bones etc. I must ask are you planning on writing a novel about such an organization?

At some point, actually, I would like to create and organize such a group. In the mean time, I am just building up my life resume.

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